Rick,

Thank you.   Correct on all counts except the missing vane is from the  
impeller which internally circulates the glycol.  

I need to do a bit of digging around the Sen-Dur exchanger and its design.   
Flat out at work all week and will be back out it this weekend.

FYI...The raw water pump needs to be replaced too.   Leaking shaft.  $400 for a 
pump.  Whodathunk?   

Damn.   


David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 18:44:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: rickbr...@earthlink.net

David, If I’m not mistaken, having the Sen-Dur retrofit makes it a fresh water 
cooled engine, not raw water. Two water pumps, right? The pump on the front of 
the engine circulates water/glycol through the engine block and to the heat 
exchanger, the second pumps sea water to the heat exchanger and then to the 
exhaust mixing elbow? If that is the case, and the impeller blade is from the 
sea water pump, there is about a 90% chance the blade is in the heat exchanger. 
Rick BrassWashington, NC   From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 6:01 PM
To: CNC CNC
Cc: David
Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn... Thanks all.

Checked obvious hose areas.  Nothing. Ran it today on the hard, seemed fine, 
Will be launched  tomorrow.  As we are Bermuda bound in June I need to find 
that puppy as it will invariably find its way to the worst spot at the worst 
time.   My guess its in the after market (Sen-Dur) heat exchanger.

Wish me luck.  

David F. Risch
1981 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)

Date: Sun, 17 May 2015 16:11:49 -0500
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn...
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: muckleyj@gmail.comYou can use the shop-vac to blow out the system too...or 
a garden hose.On May 17, 2015 4:51 PM, "Gary Nylander via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:I agree with the comments which Rick made. I had 
intermittent cooling problems on my Yanmar 2QM15 for a number of years - most 
of the time when it had been run for a while, then stopped, then started again. 
The whistle was annoying... I then had more serious problems, and found the 
impeller had come apart. I took all the little pieces of the busted impeller 
and assembled them with glue and tape to make sure there was nothing still in 
the engine. OK. With a new impeller it went back to overheating every so often 
like it used to do. I started again - I ran the engine each time I changed 
anything... After checking the hoses, strainer, pump, more hoses, and replacing 
the zincs, I found not much water coming through the hose leading to the zinc 
at the forward part of the engine. Confusing. When I pulled the hose going to 
the zinc area and fired the engine, I found a piece of an impeller which was 
hard as a rock and coated in rust stuck in there. The impeller I had just 
pulled was recent, no rust and not hard. All the other impellers I have changed 
in 20+ years of ownership had been whole. The only thing I can think of is that 
piece must have been in there for years - - - and only caused problems in 
certain conditions. Once it was removed, I have had no cooling problems for the 
last year! Start at one end, and follow it through. Blow out everything as you 
go. Gary Nylander30-1 Maryland----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Rohwer 
via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Rohwer Sent: Sunday, May 17, 
2015 12:44 PMSubject: Re: Stus-List Impeller Damn... Hi David, i’ll chime in 
and hope it helps.  If you are lucky, the vane was torn to tiny particles and 
pushed all the way through the cooling system and you are free as rain! If you 
are like me, it is lurking somewhere in the system between the pump and the 
exhaust outlet and pretty much the same size as when it left.  In a raw water 
cooled application, that means it could be anywhere in the cooling system of 
your engine block, potentially blocking or contributing to future blockage.  In 
a fresh water cooling system I think the chunks end up in the heat exchanger or 
where the raw water is introduced to the exhaust gases. Just as a suggestion, 
try not to run the engine, and starting at the pump, work your way up line 
carefully checking for pieces in the hoses hoping that it lodged in that line 
prior to entering the block.  Hang on to any chunks you find so you can get an 
idea of how pulverized it is.  After that point i doubt that there is much 
chance you would find it.  i don’t know that there is much you can do after 
that except watch temps and signs of overheating.  Maybe the new fully 
functioning impeller will push it out over time.   I like to “lay hands” on my 
diesel occasionally!  I had a hot tub that would heal itself on occasion after 
a brief group hug!   Good luck, RickC&C 37+ PaikeaPoulsbo, WA   On May 17, 
2015, at 6:01 AM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: A first 
time.  Found a missing impeller vane on my 3QM30.  The whole damn vane.   
Suggestions before I start tearing the who damned cooling system apart?   Its a 
raw water cooled engine with a Sen-Dur retro-fit.

Thanks in advance.


David F. Risch
C & C 40-2
(401) 419-4650 (cell)_______________________________________________

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