Think about it a moment. You set mast rake with the boat in the water. By 
definition she is sitting on her lines and it doesn’t really matter if she is 
trimmed stern high or stern low.

 

Gravity points straight down, so the plumb bob (weight on the end of the main 
halyard) hangs straight down and if you measure 6” of rake, you have the mast 
slanted 6” aft of vertical.

 

In the days of square riggers, and on more modern topsail schooners, it is 
common to trim the boat so it is down slightly at the stern. It is supposed to 
make the boat faster; I suppose that could be because the press of canvas when 
going downwind would push the bow down. I can’t think of a hydrodynamic reason 
a boat down at the stern would be faster than a boat sitting with the bottom 
level, but there may be one.

 

Among the things I acquired when I bought my 38 was some of her ratings 
information from IOR racing in the 70s, and an article from a Canadian sailing 
magazine about the 38-1 race boats and how to optimize them for tonnage racing. 
Seems the 38-1 was designed to be slightly down at the bow – I presume so the 
weight of crew would bring her back to level in racing trim. And one of the 
tips in the magazine article was to add 100 pounds of ballast forward (I don’t 
recall the exact spot that was recommended) to accentuate the resting condition 
– and pick up a couple of tenths of rating points.

 

Which is not really related to the discussion of mast rake. Just thought it 
might be interesting since the discussion is drifting toward hull trim.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk 2

la Belle Aurore C&C 25 mk1

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William Hall 
via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:59 PM
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Cc: William Hall
Subject: Re: Stus-List Mast Rake on C&C 30

 

Seems to me that if the boat normally sails stern-low, it moves the center of 
effort aft and has the same effect as raking the mast on a level boat...

 

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Michael Brown via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I think the initial tuning of about 8" of rake, usually done by hanging
a weight on the main halyard, is a reference assuming the boat is
sitting level in the water. At least a few of the C&C 30-1 I have
looked at are stern heavy, some by a couple of inches. I suspect
that will add some to the rake that would not be there if the boot
strip and water surface were parallel.

Under sail with crew on board the boat may sit properly. Given that
people have reported noticing a change in weather helm from even
a modest adjustment of rake the error in initial tuning by having the
stern 2" low might be significant.


A couple of weeks ago while out for practice starts we flew a heavy
wind #1 ( a flatter cut ) and full main. Winds were 18 - 22 kts, gusts
to 30. It was the wrong amount of sail to have up but the helm was
fine. Eased the vang a bit and left some twist in the main, kept the
#1 flat.

With the boat level I have about 6" of rake.


Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


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