Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change

S Thomas via CnC-List Wed, 01 Jul 2015 15:24:35 -0700

You really ought to become better informed yourself before you go shooting your 
mouth off about killing people. You obviously know very little about these 
chemicals, chemistry in general, or proportions or common usage yourself, or 
you wouldn't make such ridiculous and offensive comments about other sailors on 
this list.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Kevin Driscoll ; Jean-Francois J Rivard
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:36
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change

Anybody dumping Roundup in to their bottom paint and the waters in which we
sail should be taken out to the barn and shot. Dumping a witches brew of anti
biotics into these same waters is similarly ignorant IMO. Complain about the
EPA all you like, but someone needs to take on the unenviable task of
protecting the rest of us and our sailing waters from the ill informed and
questionably intentioned. My 2 cents.

Kevin
30-2

On Wed, Jul 1, 2015, 7:10 AM Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I totally concur..

You want the stuff to perform as designed.. You apply it as prescribed. If
the tetracycline was as effective as claimed, it would be in the paint from the
factory.

BTW, My burnished Trinidad Pro is still pristine (I check it regularly when
we swim) after being constantly in the water 1.5 years. It's not real long yet
but that is 1.5 years continuous. My competition scrubs their VC-17 bottom
every week, I scrub it never yet we're fast enough to consistently show-up on
the podium despite our inexperienced team's frequent mistakes and my old
bedsheet sails. :-)

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"
Lake Lanier, GA

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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 01:07:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Bottom paint -ingredient change
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I think any drug like " tetracycline" will kill lots of germs and bacteria
but will dissolve so fast in water, it will be gone in a few days. I wouldn't
add anything to bottom paint for fear of jeopardizing the adhesion and slow
release of it's own toxins. I've heard of people mixing in "Round Up" and I've
heard the same people complain that their paint flaked off during haulout. I
ask them if they sanded with 80 grit paper before painting as directed, and can
tell by their confused expression, they never read the directions.

I respect the guys who write the application instructions, follow those as
close as I can and I've enjoyed great success.

I understand your frustration with VC-17. I used VC-Offshore for 8 years
and got fed up with the fouling. Had to clean the bottom each week to stay
ahead of it. Used a piece of carpet and sometimes a 3M pad. Switched to a
better paint, Micron 66, and love it. Kept the boat in all winter and the
fouling looked pretty bad this May. All the boats in y marina had a fur
attached to their hulls. I was surprised how easy it came off easily with a
soft deck brush, and very little pressure. Micron 66 is designed for Salt Water
and Fresh Water requires "Micron Extra" I think. Both can be burnished, but the
paint goes on very smooth as is, and by design gets smoother as it ablates.
They are multi season hard abatives.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

Regards
François Rivard 4111 Northside Pkwy, Nw

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