The Doyle Stack Packs I’ve seen have all had the bottom edge of the sail sewn into the bottom seam of the Stack Pack. And a set of sail slugs along the bottom of the assembly are in the grove on the top of your boom. I can’t swear from experience that this is true for all Doyle Stack Packs, just for the 4 or 5 with which I have experience. I suppose you could have a shelf foot main inside a Stack Pack, but a loose foot sail might be problematic. I adjust the outhaul on my loose foot main a lot in response to wind conditions. With the clew of the sail sewn into the back of the Stack Pack, you would be tensioning or easing the sail cover as well – and I suspect that Sunbrella isn’t as responsive to adjustment as the Dacron of the sail.
My other quibble is about the height of a Stack Pack. We almost never zip up the covers on the 72 foot gaff schooner and the 2 Hunter 37 cutters owned by the charter company I sail for – only when we know the boats won’t be used for a fair amount of time. It is just too big a PITA to get up high enough to do it. Ditto for the Doyle Stack Pack on the Endeavor 35 owned by some friends; they have to carry a short ladder to reach up to the head of the sail when it is in the Stack Pack. There are other brands of combination lazy-Jack-sail-covers, and different arrangements for mounting them. Or you could make your own. A friend just made his own by converting the sail covers on the 40 foot schooner he bought last spring. Zipped out the top seam of the old covers. Added a full length zipper, a pocket along the top of each half to hold a length of batten stock, and grommets in the cover in which he terminates his lazy jack lines. He is very happy with the arrangement and the negligible cost of the modifications. He has been trying to convince me to do the same on my boat. Rick Brass Washington, NC From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:38 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Doyle Stack Pack or Mack Pack? Josh The zippers and canvas that is built into the sail From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 10:16 AM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Doyle Stack Pack or Mack Pack? Mike, I can't see anything that sets the stack pack apart from any other sail pack or any reason that the main would need modified. I looked and looked at the Doyle website marketing (videos and text). The only thing which seems to be "needed" is a loose footed mainsail. Even that might not be mandatory. What are you seeing that makes you think otherwise? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Dec 10, 2015 8:55 AM, "Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: I was looking at the Doyle Stack Pack information on their web site. It indicates that an existing sail can be converted to a stack pack sail. Persistence came with lazy jacks (since removed but still available for reinstallation). Also have an older UK Tape Drive main as well as an almost new Quantum main. This past season we used the older main for deliveries, everyday sailing and Wednesday racing and kept the new main for regattas etc … Had noted a friend with aFrers 33 has a Doyle Stack Pack for deliveries and casual sailing and it has good enough sail shape for limited racing as well. Have been considering a stack pack main at some time for cruising. Has anyone here converted an existing sail to a stack pack? Any thoughts on feasibility of converting an older UK Tape Drive to stack pack? Any ideas on cost and if at the end of life for that sail the stack pack components can be used on another sail? I know that the previous season we found the lazy jacks a pain that were always in the way and that last season with just two of us flaking the main was a major PITA esp when entering a narrow channel or looking to anchor. Thoughts? Mike Persistence 1987 Frers 33 Halifax, NS Formerly Nut Case 1987 J27 Full Tilt 2 1979 Hinterhoeller Niagara 26 Monkey Bear 1974 Paceship P23 Full Tilt 1970s McVay Minuette Blue Horizon No. 1 1981 C&C 36 (family boat) High Hopes 1979 Spirit 28 (family boat) _______________________________________________ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go to the bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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