Awesome.  Thanks.  My bilge pump is much further back than yours.  My table 
also is offset.  I might have to work a bit to get the proper fit.

Thanks for the shot.

Mark

Mark McMenamy
"Icicle" C&C 25
Fort Pierce FL

On Jan 27, 2016, at 2:23 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Mark,

Here is a link to a picture of the table base in my cockpit.  You don’t want 
the table too far forward or it will block the companionway.

http://s20.postimg.org/5wxahimxp/DSC_4675.jpg


Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 C&C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.



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Sent: January-27-16 09:49
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Cc: Mark McMenamy
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 25 cockpit table

Thanks Mike,

I was thinking about how to work around the cockpit sculpers as well  as the 
bulge pump.  I may just have to move the pump like your friend did.  Thanks for 
the tip.

Yes, the affordability and simplicity of the 25 is what really attracted me to 
the boat, yet it's still very comfortable and capable.  I haven't sailed it yet 
as it's in the yard  now getting new rigging and through hulls, but it may be 
done this week.  Hopefully I'll be able to have a first sail this weekend.    I 
don't think I've read a bad thing about this boat.

Mark McMenamy
"Icicle" C&C 25
Fort Pierce FL

On Jan 27, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Mark

Our friends with the 1974 25 “Dry Red” modified the cabin table so that it 
could also be used in cockpit.  They took the original tube that supports the 
table and replaced it with an aluminum tube that was threaded on both ends.  
One end threaded into the receptacle on the underside of the table and then 
they replaced the main cabin receptacle and installed another in cockpit floor 
that were threaded to receive other end of the tube.  End result was a very 
sturdy table both inside and out

Andy moved the manual bilge pump in the cockpit from the floor to the sides and 
epoxied in place the cockpit receptacle where the original location of bilge 
pump was located.

The 25 is one of my favourite C&Cs of all time.  It has always been affordable 
but has offered a whole lot of boat and a whole lot of capabilities in a 
smaller affordable package.  At the same time the interior is very usable for 
cruising for 2 people and the performance is nice

Mike
Persistence
Halifax
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Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:23 PM
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Cc: Rick Taillieu
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 25 Info

Mark,

The table was removable on all the C&C 25s, you may have been thinking of the 
Hinterhoeler built Redline 25s, they predated the C&C 25s and had a dinette 
that converted into a berth.
There’s no need to reinforce the cockpit floor, just seal the edges of the core 
when you drill the holes for the base and the mounting bolts.
The original base for my table in the cabin broke so I replaced it with the 
round base that you can buy at most chandlers. I used the same fitting for the 
cockpit.
I had to replace it after about five years out here in salt water.  It rotted 
away due to the salt but five years is about the time you would want to remove 
it to reseal it anyway.
It’s so nice to have a table in the cockpit when you’re relaxing after a day of 
sailing, just remember that the mount on the table is slightly offset to one 
side.

Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 C&C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.



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Cc: Mark McMenamy
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 25 Info

Hi Rick,

Thanks for the info!   Did you reinforce the cockpit floor before you added a 
post hole for the table?  I was thinking of doing the same thing.  I read that 
some 25's came from the factory so the table could be moved.

Thanks for the info and the welcome.

Mark

Mark McMenamy
"Icicle" C&C 25
Fort Pierce FL

On Jan 26, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Rick Taillieu via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Mark,

Welcome to the list, you’ll love your 25.

The 25 will hobby horse quite a bit in short chop, especially if you have a 
heavy outboard on the back and an anchor on the front.
I have a 25” ELS 4 stroke on my boat and I rarely experience any cavitation in 
waves but I do have stress cracks on the transom.  That’s what happens when you 
replace an 89 pound 2 stroke with a 108 pound 4 stroke.  Mine has a plywood 
backing plate glassed into the transom from the factory and I have a 2” thick, 
one foot square oak spacer between the mount and the transom on the outside.  
The oak spacer is there so I can fully tilt the outboard for sailing.

When I lived on Lake Ontario my wife and I would cruise the Thousand Islands 
for 7-10 days every year.  The boat is fine for two to do extended cruises but 
it does tend to get small if you’re stuck inside in rainy weather.  I made a 
boom tent from ripstop nylon that covers the entire cockpit and wraps over the 
lifelines.  It gives us shade and allows us to use the cockpit in all but the 
worst rain storms.  I also put a mount for the table in the cockpit floor so we 
can eat and entertain outside of the main cabin.  I made a plywood board that 
fits across the cabinets at the main hatchway.  It serves as a great bar and a 
place to place for the stove when cooking so the heat stays out of the cabin.

Give me a shout if you have any specific questions about how to set up your 25, 
I know the boats very well.

Rick Taillieu
Nemesis
'75 C&C 25  #371
Shearwater Yacht Club
Halifax, NS.



Thanks.  I've been wondering how using the engine would play out.  During our 
sailing lessons we've always been in shore, never any real rough chop.  I'll be 
using the Fort Pierce inlet which is one of the more benign inlets here in FL, 
but at times it for sure can get choppy, even if it's not low tide with and 
easterly wind.

I was curious if people ever take these on longer trips?  I was thinking of 
going down to the keys but I'm not quite sure how feasible that is.  It's just 
my wife and I and we've done a lot of camping etc.  It's a little over 100 nm 
to get down there.

Thanks again for the info.

Mark



Mark McMenamy
"Icicle" C&C 25
Fort Pierce FL



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