Hey Chuck,

thanks for sharing your set-up. 

That chain is loaded from the dock either by hand or with the use of the 
windlass, no big deal, you’re just feeding a few meters at a time and don’t 
have much weight there because the ends are resting on the dock and inside the 
locker.
I’m glad all rode works for you. I come from an 8-year voyage around the world 
and I have seen too much, but that’s my problem. Experience will have limiting 
effects on your decisions.
I know the whole catenary theory and everyone is in agreement, but in the end I 
still go all chain. I also take anchoring very seriously, another side-effect 
of experience. I’ve seen many accidents, a few beautiful boats lost, and my 
boat was hit by others who dragged, on 2 occasions, one resulting in multiple 
fractures of my friend’s leg as he was trying to fend off a fishing trawler 
whose rudder was being lifted 10 feet out of the water… 60 knots of wind and 3 
meter waves in the Bay of Islands, New Zealand. I’ve also seen many of those 
that as soon as the hook hits the bottom they’re in the dinghy looking for the 
pub.
Also, I’m planning to go to Newfoundland and up the coast of Labrador. Those 
are wild places with deep anchorages and strong catabatic winds. My set-up will 
let me sleep better at night, and in those isolated bays I don’t have to worry 
about others dragging onto me either.
To me the right ground tackle and the right anchoring technique are the best 
insurance for your vessel. To give an example, in Fiji we had a very bad storm 
one night (always at night), 8 boats were lost, 3 managed to sail out of the 
pass in 50 knots, and 2 boats managed to re-set their anchors, one of them 
being me. Only one stayed put, an Ozzie who paid out 600 feet of chain. He 
wasn’t even there, he had left for Australia but his yacht was safe even in his 
absence while others with crews onboard ended up on the reefs. Trust me, stuff 
like that gets to you, and you’ll soon see why sailors are obsessed with their 
ground tackle.

Cheers,
Chris




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>   4. Re:  A little help from our neighbors up north... (Graham Collins)
>   5. Re:  A little help from our neighbors up north... (John Pennie)
>   6. Re:  welcome Northern Light (John Pennie)
>   7. Re:  Hull paint pressure wash chips (Dennis C.)
>   8. Re:  Steering Cables (Christian Tirtirau)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:37:41 -0300
> From: John Sandford <johnsandf...@eastlink.ca>
> To: 'John Pennie' <j...@svpaws.net>, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
> Message-ID: <02cc01d18bae$b3093330$191b9990$@ca>
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> Was sailing last year from April 20th to Nov 4th. Nicer winds in the fall.
> Have an Espar which was nice for October along with Merino layers.
> Watch out for Lobster trap floats and leaders if you are sailing inside the 
> limit.
> http://www.tastelobster.ca/images/fishing_regions.pdf
> Come on up, you will enjoy it. Friendly folk and no Donald Trump.
> 
> John
> St Margarets Bay
> Nova Scotia
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Pennie [mailto:j...@svpaws.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:46 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
> 
> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended 
> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the 
> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially 
> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in 
> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing season 
> for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would assume 
> some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.  
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:52:05 -0300
> From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>, John Sandford
>       <johnsandf...@eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
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> 
> For most of Nova Scotia, Lobster Season ends by mid July so no traps and
> trap lines to worry about after that.
> 
> However, different regions have different seasons, a few radically
> different than the others.
> 
> An overview listing is here:
> http://thisfish.info/fishery/species/atlantic-lobster/
> 
> Ken H.
> 
> On 31 March 2016 at 21:37, John Sandford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> wrote:
> 
>> Was sailing last year from April 20th to Nov 4th. Nicer winds in the fall.
>> Have an Espar which was nice for October along with Merino layers.
>> Watch out for Lobster trap floats and leaders if you are sailing inside
>> the limit.
>> http://www.tastelobster.ca/images/fishing_regions.pdf
>> Come on up, you will enjoy it. Friendly folk and no Donald Trump.
>> 
>> John
>> St Margarets Bay
>> Nova Scotia
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Pennie [mailto:j...@svpaws.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:46 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
>> 
>> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended
>> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the
>> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially
>> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in
>> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing
>> season for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would
>> assume some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> From: Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
> To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List welcome Northern Light
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> Hi Chris, 
> Congratulations on the new boat. 
> I learned a lot from this list and appreciate the many different approaches 
> to problem solving. 
> 
> Edson can tell you which cable you need by the model of your boat. I think 
> they have two lengths. 
> 
> I don't have a windless. We usually anchor in 12 feet of water, boat weighs 
> 11,000# so my racing rode has no chain and my cruising setup has 18 ft. The 
> rest is 1/2" nylon twisted. I tried heavier 5/8" rode and found it a problem 
> tying to cleats. I learned a few tricks for raising the anchor without strain 
> and never looked back, 12 years. 
> 
> Martin, who cruises the very deep waters of Seattle stated he carries 90' of 
> chain and the rest I guess is nylon three strand twisted. 
> That makes more sense to me. I don't believe chain in the vertical part of 
> the rode improves the holding power and nylon stretches and absorbs shocks 
> better. My 2 cents. 
> 
> Don't take this wrong, but I am curious how you will load 300 feet of chain 
> onto your boat? 
> 
> Best of luck, 
> 
> Chuck Scheaffer 
> Resolute 
> 1990 C&C 34R 
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 
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> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 22:05:16 -0300
> From: Graham Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
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> I'd agree with Ken, spring can be unpredictable.  This is doubly true in 
> Cape Breton (where he lives).  May might be cool, June - mid Sept should 
> be great.  Around Halifax area the trend seems to be more rain in July 
> than August.
> 
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> 
> On 2016-03-31 7:45 PM, John Pennie via CnC-List wrote:
>> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended 
>> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the 
>> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially 
>> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in 
>> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing 
>> season for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would 
>> assume some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:05:22 -0400
> From: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
> Message-ID: <8a3e2bec-21e6-4a56-83e5-eecfeb9fa...@svpaws.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Ok, I think I can survive the temperature.  So what are the prevailing winds 
> in Nova Scotia? (Mid-May - Mid Sept, south coast).  I won?t even ask about 
> tides (and I?m coming from Long Island).  Yes, I know I can get all this from 
> a cruising guide and already to some extent  have but I thought I might ask 
> folks who actually live there.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> For most of Nova Scotia, Lobster Season ends by mid July so no traps and 
>> trap lines to worry about after that.
>> 
>> However, different regions have different seasons, a few radically different 
>> than the others.
>> 
>> An overview listing is here: 
>> http://thisfish.info/fishery/species/atlantic-lobster/ 
>> <http://thisfish.info/fishery/species/atlantic-lobster/>
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> On 31 March 2016 at 21:37, John Sandford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>> Was sailing last year from April 20th to Nov 4th. Nicer winds in the fall.
>> Have an Espar which was nice for October along with Merino layers.
>> Watch out for Lobster trap floats and leaders if you are sailing inside the 
>> limit.
>> http://www.tastelobster.ca/images/fishing_regions.pdf 
>> <http://www.tastelobster.ca/images/fishing_regions.pdf>
>> Come on up, you will enjoy it. Friendly folk and no Donald Trump.
>> 
>> John
>> St Margarets Bay
>> Nova Scotia
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Pennie [mailto:j...@svpaws.net <mailto:j...@svpaws.net>]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 7:46 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
>> 
>> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended 
>> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the 
>> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially 
>> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in 
>> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing 
>> season for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would 
>> assume some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
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> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:10:44 -0400
> From: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List welcome Northern Light
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> Chris - welcome to the list and congrats on the new boat.  It sounds like we 
> have similar cruising plans. I now sail a Tartan built C&C and the list 
> grudgingly tolerates me.  You can?t find a better source of information.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 9:02 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> Congratulations on the new boat. 
>> I learned a lot from this list and appreciate the many different approaches 
>> to problem solving.
>> 
>> Edson can tell you which cable you need by the model of your boat. I think 
>> they have two lengths.
>> 
>> I don't have a windless.  We usually anchor in 12 feet of water, boat weighs 
>> 11,000# so my racing rode has no chain and my cruising setup has 18 ft.  The 
>> rest is 1/2" nylon twisted.  I tried heavier 5/8" rode and found it a 
>> problem tying to cleats.  I learned a few tricks for raising the anchor 
>> without strain and never looked back, 12 years.  
>> 
>> Martin,  who cruises the very deep waters of Seattle stated he carries 90' 
>> of chain and the rest I guess is nylon three strand twisted.  
>> That makes more sense to me.  I don't believe chain in the vertical part of 
>> the rode improves the holding power and nylon stretches and absorbs shocks 
>> better.  My 2 cents.  
>> 
>> Don't take this wrong, but I am curious how you will load 300 feet of chain 
>> onto your boat?    
>> 
>> Best of luck,
>> 
>> Chuck Scheaffer
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like 
>> what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions 
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> From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com>
> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hull paint pressure wash chips
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> I uploaded some pics of Touche's gelcoat pox here:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsY2xPRW9XNUhLczg
> 
> A couple of the pics were taken before the bottom paint was removed but the
> pox is still visible.  Pressure washing revealed many more.  See "Gelcoat
> pox close up2".  I think this pic was after I ground them out.  They were
> all within 6 inches or so of the waterline.
> 
> As I stated earlier, the fix was to grind them out with a cone shaped
> grinding stone in a right angle die grinder.  I seem to recall I got that
> technique from Wally.  Once ground out, the holes were washed thoroughly
> with water, then an acetone wash then filled with 3M Premium Filler.
> AwlFair is also a good choice.  The filler was wiped on with a plastic
> spreader in multiple directions to ensure good filling.  See "Gelcoat Pox
> Filled".  Then the area was sanded.  All this was prior to a barrier coat
> application.
> 
> This work was done in 2007.  They have not reappeared.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Glenn via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> Would be nice to see a picture or two of the "paint chips" which you
>> subsequently refer to as holes in your posting.  I would be concerned that
>> they could be a result of pox.  Should that be the case, a more extensive
>> repair is necessary.  When I redid the bottom of my C&C 36, I examined it
>> for pox closely.
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> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 09:20:52 +0800
> From: Christian Tirtirau <christian_tirti...@yahoo.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Steering Cables
> Message-ID: <96ee3af6-142b-4049-91d3-5e16b8cf3...@yahoo.com>
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> Thank you all for some great suggestions and advice, much appreciated.
> It?s great to make contact with people from the same planet.
> I am in China, which is the equivalent of Middle Earth?not very good for 
> sailors.
> However, I?ll meet some of you guys in Halifax soon.
> Cheers to all,
> Chris
> C&C 37 Northern Light
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2016, at 8:36 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>> 
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>>  1. Re:  Steering cables C&C 37 (Martin DeYoung)
>>  2. Re:  Hull paint pressure wash chips (Glenn)
>>  3. Re:  A little help from our neighbors up north... (John Pennie)
>>  4. Re:  A little help from our neighbors up north... (Ken Heaton)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 00:09:20 +0000
>> From: Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
>> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Steering cables C&C 37
>> Message-ID: <23eae197cc1b594fa8793397ebcd357d08f9b...@dmi3.dmi.local>
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>> 
>>> ? where to install an electric windlass, before or aft of the locker?
>> 
>> Chris, welcome aboard.
>> 
>> On a 1980 C&C 36 (14,000lb disp.) with light weight anchoring gear I glassed 
>> a shelf into the anchor locker and used a horizontal windlass from Lofrans.  
>> The set up worked great and was out of sight.  We did not ask much from it 
>> most of the year with occasional use of a +-30 lb CQR and 40? of chain.
>> 
>> For Calypso at 24,000lbs of displacement with 90? of chain and a 65lb CQR I 
>> placed a Lewmar Ocean 2 vertical windlass approx. 7? aft the bow, over the 
>> large/deep anchor locker / storage space.  We reinforced the deck under the 
>> windlass with an epoxy/glass box beam and added a small bulkhead at the 
>> forward end of the anchor locker space. (This 1971 43 was built for racing 
>> and did not have factory installed anchoring gear or locker.)
>> 
>> From  memory, the Ocean 2 windlass is powered from the main battery bank 
>> with +-24? runs of 00 marine grade cable.  Typically we will have the engine 
>> running to support the current draw, especially when raising all the chain 
>> and the anchor in a deeper anchorage.  At the dock when we use the gypsy to 
>> haul my fat a** up the mast for maintenance we do not run the engine but the 
>> shore powered charger/invertor is on.
>> 
>> We have the controller?s solenoid located in the more sheltered 
>> forepeak/sail storage area just aft of the anchor locker.  For the last 16 
>> years we used the Lewmar controller on a flex cord.  In a recent Good Old 
>> Boat magazine article there was a description on how to make a remote 
>> control that looks interesting.
>> 
>> Calypso?s set up worked great even under some difficult anchoring 
>> situations.  When we went around Vancouver Island we anchored 25 out of 30 
>> nights, sometimes in over 10 fathoms.  After 16 years of use the windlass 
>> needs a good paint job and a few wire terminations need to be cleaned up but 
>> otherwise it is ready to go again.
>> 
>> With your northern cruising plans and the likelihood of some entertaining 
>> anchorages, going to the larger end of the recommended windlass range (and 
>> its supporting power) may be a good idea.  I have rarely heard any cruiser 
>> complain their windlass is too big.
>> 
>> Martin DeYoung
>> Calypso
>> 1971 C&C 43
>> Seattle
>> 
>> [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F]
>> 
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Christian 
>> Tirtirau via CnC-List
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 3:29 AM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Christian Tirtirau
>> Subject: Stus-List Steering cables C&C 37
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I?m the new owner of a C&C 37 called Northern Light. Although this is my 6th 
>> boat, it is my first C&C and I will test your patience with a number of 
>> questions until I educate myself enough to remain quiet.
>> So in fact, it is in your interest to educate me as fast as possible, 
>> considering my limited abilities.
>> 
>> First, I?d like to change the steering wire and chain system, does anyone 
>> know what size wire, length and if any one of the ready made kits from Edson 
>> fits the 37?
>> Secondly, did anyone use the StrutPro to remove the cutless bearing, and is 
>> it worth buying it? It?s 350$ on their website, but considering the cost 
>> involved in hiring another ?PRO," and the fact that it eliminates the need 
>> to remove the shaft and all the other circus, it may be worth it, but maybe 
>> I?m missing something here.
>> Third question of the day is where to install an electric windlass, before 
>> or aft of the locker? Any experiences, ideas in that area? I?ve seen a 
>> couple installed ON the locker lid, but in that case I would prefer to hold 
>> it in my arms for better grip. I?m planning on sailing Nova Scotia and 
>> circumnavigate Newfoundland next summer as I am in fact a cruiser by trade. 
>> Sorry guys, but I will load this fast boat with a lot of heavy ground 
>> tackle, in fact about 300 feet of Acco chain and a heavy Rocna and I need 
>> the windlass...
>> 
>> Thank you for your valuable advice and hope to e-meet most of you soon.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> S/V NORTHERN LIGHT
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>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hull paint pressure wash chips
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>> Steve,
>> 
>> Would be nice to see a picture or two of the "paint chips" which you 
>> subsequently refer to as holes in your posting.  I would be concerned 
>> that they could be a result of pox.  Should that be the case, a more 
>> extensive repair is necessary.  When I redid the bottom of my C&C 36, I 
>> examined it for pox closely.  I found none, but still decided to sand 
>> blast it in the fall and let it dry over the winter.  I then applied 4 
>> to 5 coats of Interlux 2000, followed by VC 17 bottom paint.  It has 
>> held up very nicely since that time.  I only apply the VC 17 each year 
>> to keep the Zebra Muscles off the bottom.  If you have to repair holes 
>> all over the bottom, you may want to use West System Epoxy.  It takes a 
>> while and it is work, but when it is done and then coated with Interlux 
>> 2000, followed by a bottom paint, you should have no problems in the 
>> future.  I am sure other from you area may have more pertinent advice.  
>> I am in fresh water on Lake Michigan.
>> 
>> G. Gambel
>> Wind N Spirits C&C 36
>> 
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "sthoma20--- via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: sthom...@bellnet.ca
>> Sent: 3/29/2016 11:10:01 AM
>> Subject: Stus-List Hull paint pressure wash chips
>> 
>>> One result of many years of barnicle build up, followed by scraping and 
>>> aggressive pressure washing is that a number of paint "chips" were 
>>> ripped out right down to the fibreglass or lead substrate on the 
>>> new-to-me-but-old-and-neglected C&C36 that I am attempting to renovate. 
>>> My intent for the time being is to remove the remaining barnacle 
>>> plates, lightly sand the existing ablative, and replace it with more of 
>>> the same. That said, I think it would be wise to do something about 
>>> these holes, and that a few tubes of spot putty might do the trick. The 
>>> main question I have is should I use some sort of primer first, and 
>>> what product is likely to work?
>>> 
>>> Steve Thomas
>>> C&C36
>>> Merritt Island, FL
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 20:29:41 -0400
>> From: John Pennie <j...@svpaws.net>
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
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>> Thanks Ken.  How early does the season start?   I would expect to move the 
>> boat to Mass or so the fall before.  We?ll be leaving from New York.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Atlantic Coast of Nova Scotia, the season lasts into mid September without 
>>> some heat source.  Bras d'Or Lakes of Cape Breton Island, mid September 
>>> without some sort of heat, with diesel heat your're good to the end of 
>>> September, the first week or two of October perhaps.
>>> 
>>> The Bras d'Or Lakes are an amazing, 450 square mile oasis, a refuge, an 
>>> escape from the fog, rough seas and cold water of the open coastline.  The 
>>> east and west coasts of Cape Breton Island are also warmer and sunnier than 
>>> Maine even though further north.
>>> 
>>> "A basin ringed by indigo hills laced with marble. Islands within a sea 
>>> inside an island."
>>> 
>>> A local online resource, maintained by volunteers from the Dobson Yacht 
>>> Club in Sydney Harbour is Cruising Cape Breton. It is a cruising guide that 
>>> can be used online OR downloaded to your computer. It is constantly 
>>> updated, to make sure the information is always current.
>>> 
>>> Among other things it contains hundreds of detailed charts of the multitude 
>>> of anchorages in the Bras d'or and around Cape Breton Island. You can use 
>>> it directly off your computer or print the chartlets, etc. to have paper 
>>> backup if you wish.
>>> 
>>> Link to Cruising Cape Breton here: http://www.cruising-cape-breton.info/ 
>>> <http://www.cruising-cape-breton.info/>
>>> 
>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>> 
>>> http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/ 
>>> <http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/>
>>> 
>>> On 31 March 2016 at 19:45, John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
>>> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
>>> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended 
>>> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the 
>>> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially 
>>> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in 
>>> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing 
>>> season for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would 
>>> assume some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 21:35:26 -0300
>> From: Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com>
>> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List A little help from our neighbors up north...
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>> Spring is really unpredictable.  This year it looks like spring is going to
>> come quite early.  Many bodies of water that are often frozen in winter did
>> not freeze at all this year.  There was no appreciable pack ice coming down
>> from the north, not much ice in the gulf so we expect the water to warm up
>> much sooner than usual this year.  I expect many people will have boats in
>> at the local clubs in before the end of April  I think there are boats
>> already sailing down Halifax way.
>> 
>> Ken H.
>> 
>> On 31 March 2016 at 21:29, John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Ken.  How early does the season start?   I would expect to move the
>>> boat to Mass or so the fall before.  We?ll be leaving from New York.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Atlantic Coast of Nova Scotia, the season lasts into mid September without
>>> some heat source.  Bras d'Or Lakes of Cape Breton Island, mid September
>>> without some sort of heat, with diesel heat your're good to the end of
>>> September, the first week or two of October perhaps.
>>> 
>>> The Bras d'Or Lakes are an amazing, 450 square mile oasis, a refuge, an
>>> escape from the fog, rough seas and cold water of the open coastline.  The
>>> east and west coasts of Cape Breton Island are also warmer and sunnier than
>>> Maine even though further north.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "A basin ringed by indigo hills laced with marble. Islands within a sea
>>> inside an island."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A local online resource, maintained by volunteers from the Dobson Yacht
>>> Club in Sydney Harbour is *Cruising Cape Breton*. It is a cruising guide
>>> that can be used online OR downloaded to your computer. It is constantly
>>> updated, to make sure the information is always current.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Among other things it contains hundreds of detailed charts of the
>>> multitude of anchorages in the Bras d'or and around Cape Breton Island. You
>>> can use it directly off your computer or print the chartlets, etc. to have
>>> paper backup if you wish.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Link to Cruising Cape Breton here: http://www.cruising-cape-breton.info/
>>> 
>>> Ken Heaton & Anne Tobin
>>> S/V Salazar - Can 54955
>>> C&C 37/40 XL - Hull # 67
>>> Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia
>>> 
>>> http://www.racethecape.ca/the-race/entrants/salazar/
>>> 
>>> On 31 March 2016 at 19:45, John Pennie via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So I?m starting to get Paws (and me) ready for the next round of extended
>>>> cruising.  It took eight years to recover from the last one.  Anyway, the
>>>> thought is to head north this time - Maine, Nova Scotia, potentially
>>>> Newfoundland.  So here?s the question - how long is the sailing season in
>>>> that area.  I?m not talking sailing for Canadians, I?m talking sailing
>>>> season for sissy-boy I won?t wear socks Americans.  Joking aside, I would
>>>> assume some kind of diesel heat for nights is pretty much prerequisite.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
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>>>> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
>>>> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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>>> 
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