I should have mentioned, my spinnakers' max widths are both "only" 184% of J.
Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stafford via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "randy stafford" <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:04:38 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 PHRF Rating When I bought C&C 30-1 HIN 3007972 it came with two spinnakers of different material weights. They were handed down with the boat when the PO moved it to Colorado from Traverse City Michigan (where it spent the first 40 years of its life). The lighter one was made by Babel & Buchbinder, an obscure loft in Traverse City that now appears to be a Doyle loft (http://www.doylesails.com/lofts/traversecity/). I can't find a sailmaker's label on the heavier one. Both have "ChuteSCOOP" dousing sleeves on them (http://www.chutescoop.com). That's all I know about them. I measured their max width how my RSA's PHRF chairman told me to, by folding each sail in half vertically and measuring from the trailing edges to the center fold, both at the foot and about a third of the way up. Then I doubled the measurement and calculated what % of J it represented. If that's not the right way to measure SMW maybe I can get 6 seconds back in my PHRF rating :) Cheers, Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker" <rbfrer...@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 9:50:15 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List 30-1 PHRF Rating I believe mine is rated 186 in STL; but I have a 160% genny, folding prop and shoal draft. There is a small difference between the shoal and fin keels for PHRF. From personal experience, I do know the fin keel points higher than my shoal draft. How did you end up with a chute that has >180% girth? Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30-1 STL From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: randy.staff...@comcast.net Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 12:34 AM Subject: Stus-List 30-1 PHRF Rating Listers- Just wondering how many of you 30-1 owners out there have ever received a PHRF certificate for your boat, and what your rating was. Looking at http://www.ussailing.org/wp-content/uploads/DARoot/Offshore/PHRF/2014%20PHRF%20Handicaps%20Data.pdf, the range is 168-186 with mode 174 and mean 174.64 (and median 177). But it's hard to know the particulars of all those boats that were rated e.g. how many had folding props. And there may be rating inconsistency between US Sailing regional sailing associations. The PHRF chairman of my regional sailing association gave my 30-1 base PHRF of 186, and an adjusted PHRF of 180 (a -6 adjustment due to spinnaker max width >180% of J). AFAIK my boat is totally stock, including a fixed two-blade prop. Just wondering how my PHRF ratings compare to other 30-1s' PHRF ratings, and wondering about the particulars of the 30-1s that got rated. Thanks In Advance, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated! _______________________________________________ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All Contributions are greatly appreciated!
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