Mark

Can you come and check out my truck?

I think I have a voltage leak somewhere underneath in one of the many wiring 
bundles ......

Mike
2008 Silverado 1500
(Yet to be named)
Halifax, NS

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark 
Bodnar via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 3:14 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar
Subject: Stus-List Success - Re: Starting Problem


I appreciate all the advice.  Had some nicer weather (finally) so I drove down 
to the boat this morning.  Couple hours of mucking around and I got it sorted.

I was able to get the engine to crank over when I hot wired the solenoid, and 
the multimeter was showing power to the starter/solenoid.

That left me thinking something was wrong in my panel - corroded looking plugs 
but no response from cleaning a few or from wiggling contacts around.

Brief call to mechanic and he suggested the fuse box on top of the engine would 
be the culprit (given the blower was not running either).  
I had already checked fuses and resistance was OK - but after some digging I 
found the outgoing wire was badly corroded and had a break hidden up underneath 
where it went into the wiring harness (variable voltage readings when I moved 
wire around).

Quick fix was to cut the wire - clean up the ends and splice it back together 
with a butt connector - engine fired right up!


Thanks for the help

Mark



There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
   - George Santayana

On 2016-06-07 3:42 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the feedback.
>
> I'll me digging out my multimeter and heading down to the boat this 
> weekend.  I now realize that I don't think the engine vent fan turned 
> on when I turned the key (my lights on the panel are rather 
> intermittent and my engine overheat buzzer has never worked, plus the 
> tach is intermittent -- so good chance that the wiring harness is the 
> culprit).
>
> I'll check the fuses on the engine and see if I can find the ground 
> wires.
>
> No glow plug to deal with.
>
> I've also been advised to check the "neutral kill swtich" (stops you 
> from starting engine in gear) and the "oil pressure kill switch" - not 
> sure where those are so I'll have to look at the engine manual.
>
> I'll see what I find and come back with more details if it's not working
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>   - George Santayana
>
> On 2016-06-06 12:12 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List wrote:
>>
>> Stopped by the boat today planning to get prep'd for some work that 
>> need to get done.
>>
>> Figured I should kick the engine over just to make sure everything 
>> was running smoothly.  Unfortunately I got nothing (absolutely 
>> nothing) from turning the key.
>>
>>
>> Batteries seem fine.  Able to run radio - and no visible dip in power 
>> to the radio when trying to turn over the engine.
>>
>> I had a similar experience a year ago after running the diesel for a 
>> few hours - wind came up and we sailed for a bit, but then couldn't 
>> re-start.  That day I easily found a loose wire (clearly it had 
>> shaken loose with the engine running for a long period) off a clip on 
>> the starter solenoid (?).
>>
>> That was my first check today - but it was attached.  Pulled it off 
>> to clean contact but no effect.
>>
>>
>> I figure there are 3 possibilities
>>
>> 1- ignition key failure - no signal to the starter to kick over
>>
>> 2- starter/solenoid failure - I doubt this as I'd expect some type of 
>> noise or power dip indicating that something was seized
>>
>> 3- electrical connection failure - I can see a large wire leading to 
>> what I presume is the solenoid, plus a couple of smaller wires 
>> connected as well.  Nothing obviously disconnected
>>
>>
>> I need to head back down to the boat with a voltage meter - try to 
>> figure out what is going on and hopefully find an easy fix!
>>
>>
>> Any advice is appreciated.  I presume is the key is working them I'd 
>> get a voltage spike at the solenoid when the key is turned. If 
>> nothing then it suggests either 1 or 3.  Where should I see that?
>>
>> I expect I'll pull the panel and check the contacts behind the 
>> ignition key - maybe try hot-wiring it if I can figure out which 
>> wires are needed
>>
>> Should I use automotive jumper cables to bypass the starter and try 
>> to spin the starter/solenoid directly?
>>
>>
>> The engine is a Volvo 2002 18HP
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the advice,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
>>   - George Santayana
>>
>>
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