Gents I would be very interested in the smaller jib if someone (Josh?) would be willing to pack it (or both sails if that is easier) and pay shipping. Happy to pay a handling fee to Stu and or in rum....
Best Rich Kindred C&C 37+ Rich Hulit (917) 854-5537 > On Jun 22, 2018, at 11:59 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (Josh Muckley) > 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (Della Barba, Joe) > 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (David Knecht) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:48:43 -0400 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Free Sails for C&C 37+ > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRCmcgyscW6HcPSXr_t6LGVur=pxrf2acp2_pvcj4bh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I got a chance to go through the sails that Bacon claimed to be > "delaminating" and "of no value". I'm not a professional sail maker (or > sailor for that matter) but both sails looked to be in perfectly fine > condition. They might be equivalent to a 2 or 3 year old race sail. No > delamination anywhere. As Ron described one is a 98% and the other is a > 155%. The 98% has partial battens. The 155% is radial cut. Both are a > mylar/kevlar material and very light by comparison to my 7.5 oz cloth > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (Josh Muckley) > 2. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (Della Barba, Joe) > 3. Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ (David Knecht) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:48:43 -0400 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Free Sails for C&C 37+ > Message-ID: > <CA+zaCRCmcgyscW6HcPSXr_t6LGVur=pxrf2acp2_pvcj4bh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I got a chance to go through the sails that Bacon claimed to be > "delaminating" and "of no value". I'm not a professional sail maker (or > sailor for that matter) but both sails looked to be in perfectly fine > condition. They might be equivalent to a 2 or 3 year old race sail. No > delamination anywhere. As Ron described one is a 98% and the other is a > 155%. The 98% has partial battens. The 155% is radial cut. Both are a > mylar/kevlar material and very light by comparison to my 7.5 oz cloth > %145. The sail bags appear to be in worse condition than the sails. I'll > be holding the sails until Ron picks them up in October. If anybody is > interested between now and then, just let me or Ron know. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 12:17 PM Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> For anyone else considering these sails, feel free to reach out to me. >> I've agree to hold on to them for Ron but will likely never use them. I >> have the triple spreader rig and have had a new sail made for my boat. >> It's luff length is 51' 2.5". I had it cut slightly short so that it would >> ride slightly above the deck and lifelines. Thus, Ron's sails measuring at >> 51' 5" would mate with my furler just fine. I believe that the second sail >> with a 52' luff would need to be flown without the furler drum or swivel >> (or both). >> >> Josh Muckley >> S/V Sea Hawk >> 1989 C&C 37+ >> Solomons, MD >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 1:50 PM Ron Ricci via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I have two jibs that I don?t use and will give them to anyone willing to >>> pick them up in Annapolis, MD. Below are links to photos and specs for >>> each sail. >>> >>> ? 98% Kevlar Jib - https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkeG82Ht0IpjLOc5 >>> >>> o Luff = 51'-5" >>> >>> o Foot = 15'-8" >>> >>> o Leach = 49' >>> >>> ? 155% Light Kevlar Genoa - >>> https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkZsSamLMQtUGi1y >>> >>> o Luff = 52' >>> >>> o Foot = 24'-9" >>> >>> o Leach = 50'-6" >>> >>> I took these sails to Bacon Sails last March and after several inquiries >>> they finally said the sails had no value because supposedly they were >>> de-laminating. When I left the sails off, the preliminary inspection did >>> not show any delamination nor did I see any when the photos were taken. It >>> is not practical for me to pick up the sails and it would be a shame to >>> dispose of them. I?d feel much better if someone could put them to good >>> use (or at least store them in their attic). >>> >>> Please contact me off line ASAP if you are interested. I will make >>> arrangements so you can pick up one or both. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> *Ron* >>> >>> Ron Ricci >>> >>> S/V Patriot >>> >>> C&C 37+ >>> >>> Bristol, RI >>> >>> ron.ri...@1968.usna.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180622/46a28e0f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 14:57:55 +0000 > From: "Della Barba, Joe" <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> > To: "'cnc-list@cnc-list.com'" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ > Message-ID: > <4a4b8b525b1348e69ce92efbff1ba...@nsc-dag3-06.ba.ad.ssa.gov> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > My old main was rated ?scrap? by Bacons. It surely is not new, but it is > certainly serviceable as a cruising sail. We had it up the other day and it > isn?t THAT bad. > Speaking of which, once I get my newer sail from Bacons, if anyone with a 35 > MK I is in a jam for a main and low on cash, my old one is yours for shipping. > > Joe > Coquina > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 9:49 AM > To: C&C List > Cc: Josh Muckley > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Free Sails for C&C 37+ > > I got a chance to go through the sails that Bacon claimed to be > "delaminating" and "of no value". I'm not a professional sail maker (or > sailor for that matter) but both sails looked to be in perfectly fine > condition. They might be equivalent to a 2 or 3 year old race sail. No > delamination anywhere. As Ron described one is a 98% and the other is a > 155%. The 98% has partial battens. The 155% is radial cut. Both are a > mylar/kevlar material and very light by comparison to my 7.5 oz cloth %145. > The sail bags appear to be in worse condition than the sails. I'll be > holding the sails until Ron picks them up in October. If anybody is > interested between now and then, just let me or Ron know. > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018, 12:17 PM Josh Muckley > <muckl...@gmail.com<mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> wrote: > For anyone else considering these sails, feel free to reach out to me. I've > agree to hold on to them for Ron but will likely never use them. I have the > triple spreader rig and have had a new sail made for my boat. It's luff > length is 51' 2.5". I had it cut slightly short so that it would ride > slightly above the deck and lifelines. Thus, Ron's sails measuring at 51' 5" > would mate with my furler just fine. I believe that the second sail with a > 52' luff would need to be flown without the furler drum or swivel (or both). > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > > > > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018, 1:50 PM Ron Ricci via CnC-List > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > I have two jibs that I don?t use and will give them to anyone willing to pick > them up in Annapolis, MD. Below are links to photos and specs for each sail. > > ? 98% Kevlar Jib - https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkeG82Ht0IpjLOc5 > > o Luff = 51'-5" > > o Foot = 15'-8" > > o Leach = 49' > > ? 155% Light Kevlar Genoa - > https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhpB-lul9d5YrkZsSamLMQtUGi1y > > o Luff = 52' > > o Foot = 24'-9" > > o Leach = 50'-6" > I took these sails to Bacon Sails last March and after several inquiries they > finally said the sails had no value because supposedly they were > de-laminating. When I left the sails off, the preliminary inspection did not > show any delamination nor did I see any when the photos were taken. It is > not practical for me to pick up the sails and it would be a shame to dispose > of them. I?d feel much better if someone could put them to good use (or at > least store them in their attic). > Please contact me off line ASAP if you are interested. I will make > arrangements so you can pick up one or both. > Thanks, > Ron > Ron Ricci > S/V Patriot > C&C 37+ > Bristol, RI > ron.ri...@1968.usna.com<mailto:ron.ri...@1968.usna.com> > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180622/f73b534f/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:59:05 -0400 > From: David Knecht <davidakne...@gmail.com> > To: CnC CnC discussion list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Free Sails for C&C 37+ > Message-ID: <b288d518-547b-4b7e-97d3-a36b35a11...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I just got my new racing sails from Z Sails yesterday, which means at a > minimum, I have my original mainsail (cross-cut 4 batten dacron) which I > would be happy to pass on for the cost of shipping. It came from the PO, but > I think it is in serviceable condition. Otherwise, I will give it to Sail > Bags to get another free bag. I can?t use it because it has standard mast > slides and I have installed a Tides Marine Strong Track system. > > I spent several hours sailing with Chris Zaleski from Z sails after we got > them set up on the boat (Carbon tai-radial 145% and main). I can?t recommend > him highly enough (and he has made plenty of C&C sails). I have never had > such a knowledgable sail maker come show me all the details of setting up and > trimming sails before. In fact, only once has a sailmaker come sailing with > me after delivery and I was thoroughly unimpressed with the information I > got. These new sails look nothing like what I have been using. The shape is > different (flatter and more uniform) and the ability to see the effects of > adjustments dramatically different. I have read about draft position, halyard > tension, Cunningham etc. and struggled to apply what I read, but it was so > much easier to see the expected effects of each adjustment with these sails. > I am really anxious to see how this translates to speed when we race next > week. > One other tidbit- we have a new club member who I talked to yesterday who > just bought a 22? Catalina to sail while waiting for his C&C 30 be built and > delivered! I was under the impression that when US Watercraft went bankrupt, > the C&C name died with it. He claims he is waiting in line behind a number > of C&C 30?s being built in Newport (by Tartan?) Anyone else heard these > rumors? 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