Question: with about this long a boat at 62’ listed, with a shallow draft as this one apparently is, would you expect it to sail well to weather? In my limited opinion, I thought the deeper the keel, a fin keel, the better it would go. Am I wrong on this? I sailed and lived aboard a Bowman 47 that had an 8’ sweptaway fin keel that sailed like a dream so maybe I’m fixated on that. It seems like lots of larger boats have shallow drafts to allow them access to shallow water but wouldn’t they be unlikely to sail closer to the wind? My C&C 33 has a 5’6” draft. She sails great to weather, 15-20 degrees off wind regularly. What do y’all think?
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Message-ID: <263701d42386$2aeb71d0$80c25570$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll say. Can't neglect these boats. Why in the world would they say, "In nice condition"? Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 2:57 PM To: CNC CNC Cc: David Subject: Stus-List Holy Crap... ...what a shame. Must have been a Bruckman one off? https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States? refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States ?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States ?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com www.yachtworld.com 1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180724/b2a06d29/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:57:25 -0400 From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Holy Crap... Message-ID: <cael16p-raccaycz8mp9lq09yyfudtg5__tng2__fu0ugkqn...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Herrington Harbor is a massive marina. Compared to some of the derelict boats abandoned there, it is in at least fair condition. What a shame! Joel <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I?ll say. Can?t neglect these boats. > > Why in the world would they say, ?In nice condition?? > > > > Bill Coleman > > C&C 39 Erie, PA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *David > via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2018 2:57 PM > *To:* CNC CNC > *Cc:* David > *Subject:* Stus-List Holy Crap... > > > > ...what a shame. Must have been a Bruckman one off? > > > > https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/ > Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk > > > <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> > > 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com > <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> > > www.yachtworld.com > > 1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE > > > > > > *David F. Risch, J. D.* > > *Gulf Stream Associates, LLC* > > *(401) 419-4650 * > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > -- Joel 301 541 8551 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180724/711f4a3d/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 20:00:26 +0000 From: David <davidrisc...@msn.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Holy Crap... Message-ID: <dm5pr16mb165757ef3e3c7399a70a7f47da...@dm5pr16mb1657.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" If it has not been sunk...hmmmm. David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 ________________________________ From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 3:57 PM To: cnc-list Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Holy Crap... Herrington Harbor is a massive marina. Compared to some of the derelict boats abandoned there, it is in at least fair condition. What a shame! Joel [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png]<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I?ll say. Can?t neglect these boats. Why in the world would they say, ?In nice condition?? Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 2:57 PM To: CNC CNC Cc: David Subject: Stus-List Holy Crap... ...what a shame. Must have been a Bruckman one off? https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk [https://newimages.yachtworld.com/resize/1/76/62/5927662_20180723121725123_1_XLARGE.jpg?f=/1/76/62/5927662_20180723121725123_1_XLARGE.jpg&w=250&h=140&t=1532377147000]<https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com<https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> www.yachtworld.com<http://www.yachtworld.com> 1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -- Joel 301 541 8551 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20180724/88d3b039/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 16:03:42 -0400 From: "Chuck Gilchrest" <csgilchr...@comcast.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Holy Crap... Message-ID: <005e01d42389$6bff1d40$43fd57c0$@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Let's start with,"where the heck is the mast and the engine?" And move on to winches, sails, and pretty much anything of value. When I bought my first C&C in Rhode Island, it was in a modest boat yard right next to Young America, the 1995 America's Cup defender (unsuccessful). This was the boat with the Roy Lichtenstein mermaid painting on the hull. Being an impressionable sailor and a huge America's Cup fanatic, I was blown away to see every bit of deck hardware and parts that weren't a molded part of the hull or deck, completely stripped off the boat. What a tragedy, I thought! Why doesn't somebody preserve this boat as a piece of history? As it turns out, the boat was worth more as an art work than as a boat and it is currently sitting in an outdoor art museum up in the Catskill Mountains in NY, no keel, not a lick of boat stuff attached. For someone growing up thinking the America's Cup was the coolest competition on the planet, seeing a boat in that condition was as if somebody was to take James Bond's Aston Martin DB5 and rip out the engine and paint it dayglo orange. At the same time, some boats with serious pedigrees of success have survived, witness Intrepid, Courageous, Dorade, Gypsy Moth IV and others. I wonder what ever happened to Evergreen and Red Jacket? Chuck Gilchrest S/V Half Magic 1983 35 Landfall Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 2:57 PM To: CNC CNC <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com> Subject: Stus-List Holy Crap... ...what a shame. Must have been a Bruckman one off? https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States? refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States ?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> <https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1982/C%26C--3232551/Deale/MD/United-States ?refSource=standard%20listing#.W1ZvV7gnaUk> 1982 C&C Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com www.yachtworld.com <http://www.yachtworld.com> 1982 C&C Sail boat for sale, located in Maryland, DEALE David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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