Thanks Leslie :) Chris
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, October 14, 2018, 2:46 PM, Leslie Paal via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I second your thoughts about 'smaller'. I traded up from a 25 to a 32, because of my (ex)wife. While I truly enjoy the 32, it is is a nice boat, I wish I kept the 25. Just the right size for coastal cruising, including Catalina Is. The 32 is more comfortable, no question. But it is just that much more work. Leslie. Phoenix C&C32 was Navigo2 C&C25 -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10/11/18, Chris Graham via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? To: "Richard Bush via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Chris Graham" <sabre28...@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, October 11, 2018, 6:53 AM I really do appreciate the feedback and encouragement. I watched my father-in-law sell his beloved 27' to move up to a 34' to appease his wife who complained that she was "hot and bobbing"...I heard the same complaints on the the 34'er and again on their 37'. I remember him lamenting the day he sold the 27'er, and it has stuck with me ever since. I never regretted for a day downsizing from my 34' to my 28' and felt I was getting closer to what I really enjoyed about sailing. I have some time here to see what is out there but I feel no real pull toward a 30' boat regardless of initial purchase price. I am pretty steadfast in my desire to keep it small and manageable. My days of the "bigger is better" trap is one I don't wish to fall into again ;) I have a three bedroom house and wish I had a one bedroom!! :) Chris On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 9:32:55 AM EDT, Richard Bush via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I second David's comments; when I bought my first C&C, (1982 25 II); it never dawned on me that I would be trading up; however, there is a growth curve that happens once you get on the boat and learn how it functions and how to use the boat; After having the boat for several years, I was on a friend's larger boat (a J-29), and I remember thinking (to myself)...I can handle this! Thus began a progression similar to many on this list: (all C&C's); 25; 29, 33 and currently, a 37: Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 600: Richard N. Bush 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -----Original Message----- From: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David <davidrisc...@msn.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 11, 2018 9:21 am Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Whether its a 30 or 27 or 26. Have patience with looking. Someone in the next town gave away a decent 30' to a deserving family who would use and love the boat as it was by its original owner. Its not always the money. With that in mind look for the best whatever footage (me? go for the 30, you will be trading up within 5 years anyway) you can find with all the work done, sails purchased etc. and do not be afraid to have a budget that you will stick to and offer. They can only say no. But they may say yes for non-economic (emotional) reasons. Lots of boats out there and lots of eyes all over the country to help if its not local to you. David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:25 AM To: Chris Graham Cc: Dave S; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 26' or 27'? Agreed with Bruce - none of the boats in this range are too big to be easily handled with a small crew. IMO you are unlikely to wish you’d bought a 27 after having bought a 30. You described the condition of the 27 in some detail and it clearly needs a lot of work. There are tons of tired boats out there, be patient. There will be another one tomorrow.... be prepared to pay more for a very well maintained boat - someone else’s labour of love. (Money pit) Other thing is to make a list of the ‘must have’ equipment and be disciplined about that too. The cost of repair and outfitting a tired 27 will can quickly exceed its acquisition cost. My $.02.... Dave Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2018, at 8:10 AM, Chris Graham <sabre28...@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks Bruce! I’m going to be single handing 90% of the time, and storage, mooring costs, sail replacement, etc...is another reason why I’m trying to keep the length down. I do understand the 30’ is a superior boat on many levels. I think I’m committed to a smaller size though I may be convinced otherwise if something were to present itself. :) You nailed the price of both boats. The 26’ has cosmetic issues but can be dropped in the water tomorrow and sailed away. Just trying to look down the road and make the right choice. Beautiful pacific seacraft 25’ at triple the coast but a beautiful bait with classic lines, double ender... but I want to keep costs down! :) Chris Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, October 11, 2018, 7:57 AM, bwhitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I had a 1977 C&C 27 MK III for 15 years on Lake Michigan. The nice thing about the MK III was that it had a taller rig than the one you'relooking at, which made her a great light air performer, generally hitting hull speed of 6.4 in about 9 kts pf wind, and which would commonly sustain 7 knots. I would be less optimistic about the MK II, and I sold mine for 8K in 2015, albeit to a friend in very good condition. It was in very good shape but also did not have roller furling. Given the work you're talking about, she ought to be $2,500 or even less. Now having a bigger boat and the affordability of older boats, I too would recommend looking at a bigger one, or at least holding out for one in much better condition. Just my $.02 worth, Bruce Whitmore Sent from Samsung tablet _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. 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