Great paint job. I had wondered in the past would car paint to the job? it
last for decades without fading and can be spot fixed. Any thoughts?

Christian Planton
Peer Gynt
C&C 34 1980
Saugatuck, CT




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>    1.  Grenadine's Paint Job (Rob Ball)
>    2. Re:  Sail Plan and Heavy Weather (dwight veinot)
>    3.  GPS mount swing arm (Chris Graham)
>    4. Re:  Grenadine's Paint Job (Randal Stafford)
>    5. Re:  Sail plan and heavy weather. (dwight veinot)
>    6. Re:  Grenadine's Paint Job (Bill Coleman)
>    7. Re:  GPS mount swing arm (Marek Dziedzic)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rob Ball <r...@edsonintl.com>
> To: Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> Cc: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Bria Knowles <briab...@hotmail.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:20:06 +0000
> Subject: Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job
> Randy,
> My daughter makes a point about chasing C&C owners to pitch them to make
> sure they get the boat's name painted in that spot in the Cove Stripe.
> So, Look Out - she'll be after you . . . . . . . . . .
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since my lake closed early this year (mid-September) for expansion
> construction over the winter, I took advantage of the beautiful fall
> weather to do a major project: painting.  The good news is that next
> season, we’ll have a brand-spanking-new marina facility.
>
> After exploring a number of options e.g. places where I could do it
> myself, estimates from several business, etc., I decided to hire the job
> out to an experienced old salt with a small local boatyard.  I could tell
> he had an appreciation of older boats and got a lot of satisfaction from
> improving them.
>
> He filled and faired all the gouges in the hull, and the C&C smile.
> Power-sanded the bottom and applied two coats VC-17 blue.  Above the boot
> stripe he rolled and tipped four coats of Interlux red, sanding between
> each coat and thinning the later coats.
>
> I’ve put pictures of the result at
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AgG7585KNUspS1W8TsyUGq8hFgeP997h.
>
> With that and new canvas (red sail / tiller / winch covers), and
> refinished brightwork around the companionway, she’ll be the sharpest boat
> in the new marina.  And hopefully faster in the club’s fleet too, with that
> smooth new bottom.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 08:55:18 -0300
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail Plan and Heavy Weather
> Or an inclinometer an inexpensive device that shows degree of heel. Mount
> it in the cockit. Around 20 degrees of heel most C&C’s i have sailed are
> quite fast but under 15 is more comfortable for some and not much slower on
> a beat or close reach. Like using the heads or pouring a beverage is tricky
> when heeled over 15 degrees
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 2:09 PM Len Mitchell via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian, We reef around 20 knots. Too much heel is uncomfortable for the
>> crew and inefficient. We have an autopilot with a rudder indicator so it’s
>> easy to see when our rig is balanced (less rudder angle). We reef the main
>> first like someone already said and idk if 22 degrees of heel is fastest
>> but if not it’s probably close, a racer would have that dialled in. We are
>> the regular mast version, wing keel and use a 144% head sail rolled as
>> necessary, and two reef points in the main. 30-35 knots of wind is possible
>> but not as much fun. I guess I would recommend a rudder indicator if you
>> don’t already have one, your electronics are way more advanced than mine.
>>
>> Len Mitchell
>> Crazy Legs
>> 1989 37+
>> Midland On
>> Sent from my iPad
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Chris Graham <sabre28...@yahoo.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:10:19 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Stus-List GPS mount swing arm
> Good morning!
>
> Didn't know if any of you might have some suggestions for a good swing arm
> mount for my GPS chart plotter? I'm considering the RAM Mounts but boy are
> they expensive! Are there any other models out there that might be a bit
> more reasonable in price? The Rams do look quite sturdy and mounting them
> looks quite straight forward.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Randal Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> To: Rob Ball <r...@edsonintl.com>
> Cc: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Bria Knowles <briab...@hotmail.com>
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2018 08:26:25 -0600
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job
> I could do that. I use decals from BoatUS Graphics, and could order two
> boat name decals in the right font and size etc. to put there.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 1, 2018, at 3:20 AM, Rob Ball <r...@edsonintl.com> wrote:
>
> Randy,
> My daughter makes a point about chasing C&C owners to pitch them to make
> sure they get the boat's name painted in that spot in the Cove Stripe.
> So, Look Out - she'll be after you . . . . . . . . . .
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2018, at 9:49 PM, Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since my lake closed early this year (mid-September) for expansion
> construction over the winter, I took advantage of the beautiful fall
> weather to do a major project: painting.  The good news is that next
> season, we’ll have a brand-spanking-new marina facility.
>
> After exploring a number of options e.g. places where I could do it
> myself, estimates from several business, etc., I decided to hire the job
> out to an experienced old salt with a small local boatyard.  I could tell
> he had an appreciation of older boats and got a lot of satisfaction from
> improving them.
>
> He filled and faired all the gouges in the hull, and the C&C smile.
> Power-sanded the bottom and applied two coats VC-17 blue.  Above the boot
> stripe he rolled and tipped four coats of Interlux red, sanding between
> each coat and thinning the later coats.
>
> I’ve put pictures of the result at
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AgG7585KNUspS1W8TsyUGq8hFgeP997h.
>
> With that and new canvas (red sail / tiller / winch covers), and
> refinished brightwork around the companionway, she’ll be the sharpest boat
> in the new marina.  And hopefully faster in the club’s fleet too, with that
> smooth new bottom.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy Stafford
> S/V Grenadine
> C&C 30-1 #7
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: dwight veinot <dwight...@gmail.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 11:30:07 -0300
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sail plan and heavy weather.
> I hope you guys are all talking apparent wind strength
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:30 PM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> It’s situational, depending on the boat and who’s on it.  On my 30 MK I,
>> a notoriously stiff boat, I’ll carry full main and 150% genoa in 20+ knots
>> with my racing crew aboard.  Leisure sailing with my wife in the same
>> conditions, it’s main only, if she’ll even go out :)
>>
>> I give my crew these guidelines when they race the boat without me:
>> <10 knots - full main and drifter (lightweight 150%)
>> 10-20 knots - full main and #2 genoa (heavy 150%)
>> >20 knots - flat main and #3 genoa (heavy 130%)
>>
>> My experience with my 30-1 has been that it takes about 25 knots under
>> full sail to bury a rail close-hauled.  Twice this summer I tore my drifter
>> when the wind jumped from 10 to 35 with little warning; she tears sails
>> before knocking down.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy Stafford
>> S/V Grenadine
>> C&C 30-1 #7
>> Ken Caryl, CO
>>
>> > On Oct 30, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Brian Fry via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > After spending a wonderful weekend with a bunch of great folks, Manon
>> and I sailed back to
>> > Havre de Grace under the strongest conditions we have been in yet. We
>> usually stay put if the forecast is over 20. The forecast was 20s with
>> gusts to 30+. I was looking forward to testing my new rig, especially since
>> Josh allowed me to use his Loos gauge to check my rig job. Turns out my
>> tune was quite true. We had been out before, but only at a max of about 20.
>> > We set sail at the yellow mark outside Nap with 2 reefs in the main and
>> a full 100 jib.
>> > Everything was going well, a nice beam reach, until north of the bridge
>> when the swells got larger and the gusts stronger. The gusts would push us
>> over to the rails in the water and last for a good 30 seconds, then a swell
>> would push us a little further. A few times we lost depth indication, a
>> tell that the transducer was out of the water, or nearly so. Reefing the
>> jib to 50% made things much more comfortable. We sailed the whole way back
>> under these conditions. Entering HdG channel was challenging, putting us
>> close hauled and tacking up the channel to where it ran abeam again.
>> Thankfully my new sonar allowed for greater tacks outside of the channel,
>> which freaked out the Admiral. I decided to tack instead of motoring and
>> dropping sail to avoid turning the sails into rags in the 25 knot winds (
>> mine are of unknown age).
>> > So now the question, when do you reef? How much wind is too much?
>> > We usually do the first reef at 15, the second at 20, then the jib at
>> 25. I am thinking 35 sustained would be my limit. But I havent been out in
>> that yet.
>> >
>> > S/V La Neige
>> > 1993 C&C 37/40 XL
>> > Havre de Grace , MD
>> > FB blog : thenext14years
>> > Brian and Manon
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bill Coleman <colt...@verizon.net>
> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:42:34 -0400
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job
>
> Looks Sweet!
>
> I think he must have been out of blue and used natural VC-17, tho –
>
> I like that look, but I wish it would stay bronzy instead of turning
> gun-metal . . .
>
> You’re lucky to find a good craftsman like that out in the desert. They
> are around by the coasts, but hard to nail down.
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Randy
> Stafford via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:50 PM
> *To:* cnc-list
> *Cc:* Randy Stafford
> *Subject:* Stus-List Grenadine's Paint Job
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Since my lake closed early this year (mid-September) for expansion
> construction over the winter, I took advantage of the beautiful fall
> weather to do a major project: painting.  The good news is that next
> season, we’ll have a brand-spanking-new marina facility.
>
>
>
> After exploring a number of options e.g. places where I could do it
> myself, estimates from several business, etc., I decided to hire the job
> out to an experienced old salt with a small local boatyard.  I could tell
> he had an appreciation of older boats and got a lot of satisfaction from
> improving them.
>
>
>
> He filled and faired all the gouges in the hull, and the C&C smile.
> Power-sanded the bottom and applied two coats VC-17 blue.  Above the boot
> stripe he rolled and tipped four coats of Interlux red, sanding between
> each coat and thinning the later coats.
>
>
>
> I’ve put pictures of the result at
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AgG7585KNUspS1W8TsyUGq8hFgeP997h.
>
>
>
> With that and new canvas (red sail / tiller / winch covers), and
> refinished brightwork around the companionway, she’ll be the sharpest boat
> in the new marina.  And hopefully faster in the club’s fleet too, with that
> smooth new bottom.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Randy Stafford
>
> S/V Grenadine
>
> C&C 30-1 #7
>
> Ken Caryl, CO
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2018 14:45:31 +0000
> Subject: Re: Stus-List GPS mount swing arm
> I bit the bullet and bought the RAM mount.
>
> It wasn’t that bad, though. I bought a 1” handlebar mount + a double
> socket arm ($27 for the set) + round plate with ball ($15). The prices are
> current; I think I paid a bit less. So for $45 you have a very solid mount
> that attaches to the binnacle guard, swings away when needed, can be
> adjusted to see it from behind or in front of the wheel, and can be easily
> removed. The alternative was to install a Navpod for about 10x the cost. I
> am quite happy with what I got.
>
> Marek
>
> 1994 C270 Legato
> Ottawa, ON
>
> *From:* Chris Graham via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 09:11
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Chris Graham
> *Subject:* Stus-List GPS mount swing arm
>
> Good morning!
>
> Didn't know if any of you might have some suggestions for a good swing arm
> mount for my GPS chart plotter? I'm considering the RAM Mounts but boy are
> they expensive! Are there any other models out there that might be a bit
> more reasonable in price? The Rams do look quite sturdy and mounting them
> looks quite straight forward.
>
> Chris
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