Thanks for pointing out the case study, looks to be pretty clear on the topic. 
I had asked
about the use of a reaching strut and was told it was an outrigger. Maybe the 
ISAF
findings are not applicable here, no idea. I will check again and specifically 
point out that case.


So leaning out as long as the torso is not outside of the lifelines ( RRS 48.2 
) and holding a
sheet is fine.


There may be an reaching strut project in my future.




I didn't see your update before I emailed. I have the list set to digest mode 
so I get some delay
in seeing everyone's emails. I don't always check them promptly either, 
sometimes busy or away.
I do enjoy them, always informative. Or funny. Or both.




Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1





Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 17:32:28 -0500 
From: "Matthew L. Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net> 
 
One last thing on this topic: there are two reported cases indicating that a 
person leaning out holding a sheet is also not an outrigger. 
 
From: Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List  
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 12:09 PM 


Cc: Matthew L. Wolford  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Reaching Strut Pole replacement (now RRS 50.3) 
 
Michael: 
 
    I assume that you sent your note below about there being no exception for 
reaching struts before I sent my note about Case 97.  I don?t know who decides 
cases arising under the Rules these days (I used to follow Cases and US Sailing 
Appeals), but it used to be the ISAF Racing Rules Committee (International 
Sailing Federation).  I believe the organization is now called World Sailing or 
something.  When a Case is decided, that establishes how a Rule is to be 
interpreted unless there is a contrary US Sailing prescription (on my side of 
the pond).  I assume that Canada has a similar prescription process. 
 
    After your note about reaching struts yesterday, I searched 
RacingRulesOfSailing.org to see if any cases had been decided under Rule 50.3 
about reaching struts being a prohibited outrigger.  I found Case 97, which 
interpreted the term ?outrigger? as used in Rule 50.3 to not prohibit ?jockey 
poles? because they redirect the guy, not a sheet or a sail.  A jockey pole is 
the same thing as a reaching strut, so I do not understand your follow-up 
comment below that you ?have not found an exception.?  Case 97 clearly 
interprets the term ?outrigger? as not applying to jockey poles (i.e., reaching 
struts).  Am I missing something? 
 
    Matt Wolford 
    C&C 42 Custom 
 
From: Michael Brown via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2018 5:55 PM  

 
The topic of outriggers came up a while back and I asked specifically about any 
disclaimers 
for a reaching strut. I agree that it is a safety and rigging saving 
consideration as opposed to 
something that improves performance. I have not found an exception so it looks 
like it falls 
under the outrigger classification. 
 
Telling racers that they cannot lean over the lifelines and hold a jib out 
because outriggers 
are not permitted usually draws a blank stare also. 
 
Somewhat related are other clubs appointing a technical committee in observance 
of 
RRS 60.4?  I am the PHRF handicapper at a Toronto club, the National Yacht 
Club, so 
took on that role also. No protests so far, I felt that gentle education of the 
rules was 
required first. We have about 200 senior members ( skippers ) and got just over 
90 
PHRF certificates issued this year. Experience levels range from the world 
champions 
in the Beneteau First 36.7 OD, first in IRC and LO300 to never have raced 
before. 
 
It makes deciding on what to enforce a bit difficult. Particularly when it 
doesn't make sense. 
 
Michael Brown 
Windburn 
C&C 30-1 
 
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