Shawn, 
              One of the boats you mention as possible candidates is a CS30. I 
have considerable experience on a friend's CS30, and I can tell you that they 
are great boats, well constructed, and eminently suitable both for PHRF racing 
and couple-of-week cruises. They are very similar to a CS33 in creature comfort 
but they will save you money in marina fees. The main difference I have found 
between them and the C&C's in sailing characteristics is a much greater 
tendency to round up in a puff, (say 30 knots), so you learn to reef the main 
first and early. All mainsail control lines are factory led to the cockpit 
which is a nice feature as well. You only need to go forward to hook the tack 
reef points. 

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
C&C36


---- Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
Hi Steve,

Thanks for the info. I've talked to brokers, but there are so few listings
around here that they don't have anything to show me. I have visited and
walked every dock within a 2 hour drive from here, but being on an island,
that's not a lot of boats, even with cruising grounds in our backyard.
There are new private listings starting to appear every day now, but
nothing new at the brokers yet. The problem is I have not nailed down what
I want yet, so the boats that have interested me are hugely varied, and
usually just out of my price range - like Westsail 32, Nicholson 35, CS
36T. The CS 36T I have not been on board, but there are 5 of them nearby,
and the interior photos I've seen look great, but it's about double my
budget, so I'm now considering the CS 30, but they are much less common
here. Lots of C&Cs, but anything over 27' is usually asking too much, like
$30K+. I even looked at Catalina 30...

The only C&C 32 listed here currently is asking $40K, and the broker says
it's because the wife says sell, but the husband doesn't want to, so he
won't drop the price...
There are a ton of C&Cs here (at WestPort in Sidney they are more common
that Catalinas) but the prices seem higher than most places.

I do need to get on board a few more C&Cs to get a feel for them, as I have
only been on the 26, 35-2 and 37 so far. And yes, a diesel is a must.
Trouble is, I want a decent light air boat that can also handle rough seas
that we will sea at times, especially north of Desolation Sound. And that
usually means at least 32', which is a challenge to get for $20-25K CAD.

But I am learning at lot along the way. :)

Thanks

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:23 AM Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Shawn, talk to some brokers and look at their boats is my advice.
>
> This reminds me of a guy who came out to buy a hatchback I was selling
> recently. The guy drove over an hour out to the countryside where we live
> to look at the car, and to try his kid seat in it. It didn't end up fitting
> how he liked. He would have saved both of us a lot of time if he had just
> gone to a used car lot and done his decision making there. Likewise, you
> can learn a lot walking the docks and talking to other boat owners, or
> calling on brokers and seeing their boats. Those folks are literally paid
> to show boats. Get your short list figured out, buy the first boat that
> meets your requirements and price point. Go sailing.
>
> For what it's worth. This is why I priced my boat low when I sold it, and
> went through a broker. Quick sale, and only the serious buyers will make
> the effort. First guy who looked at it, bought it. Had to rip the bandage
> off, it was a hard decision.
>
> Sorry if my earlier message sounded full of crankitude - I'm boatless, and
> jealous :)
>
> If you're looking at boats in those size ranges, I REALLY loved my C&C 32.
> And they tend to be priced lower for whatever reason, they're not great
> PHRF boats and it seems around here that's what matters. They are a great
> handling, and sailing boat that one can cruise on in comfort, though. Mine
> was a 1980, later ones came with diesels, mine had an A4. Purchased for
> 18k, sold for 25k five years later (and many, many boat bucks of investment
> and hours of work later - and cruises all over Lake Ontario and Georgian
> Bay). I sold a turn-key boat with new sails, solar panels, electrical,
> plumbing, etc etc etc.
>
> FWIW
>
> Steve
>
>

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