Yeah we may covet the non maintenance of stainless down here in the south but we are heat avoidant.
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(Dreuge) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 20:39:10 -0800 From: Jim Watts <paradigmat...@gmail.com> To: 1 CnC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Hull windows Message-ID: <ca+jz0ffgqtczjwv6kcm9gpdccqj71kpa6yn0sg5nfgw-s7m...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Some boats can look good with hull windows, and properly engineered they should not be a strength factor in the hull. http://www.iconsailing.com/assets/homepage/k1087.jpg Some boats look hideous with hull windows, and look like the boat will fold on the dotted line. https://www.oysteryachts.com/images/yachts/46/oyster_745_75ft_yacht_at_sea_on_body_of_water.jpg It depends... Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 at 05:41, Rob Ball via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I would love to have Windows in the hull. > But, as you mention they are always Ugly. > For sure fitting them into an existing hull that was not built for it, > would be very unwise. There needs to be careful structure changes if a > window is fitted . . . . . > I dreamed of a full length stripe that was a window set into the hull, > with occasional openings inside. You could get the windows and a good > looking boat. Alas, pretty hard to accomplish. The differing expansion and > contraction of different materials with temperature changes, etc. > Some of the Baltic's these days have opening 'doors' in the hull. You can > imagine the engineering that goes into something like that to make the boat > safe . . . . . > Maybe in my next life . . . . . > > Rob Ball. C&C 34 > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190218/6212e003/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:04:22 -0500 From: "Matthew L. Wolford" <wolf...@erie.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not. Message-ID: <DC9660559A704848AFB1FC3AA1E3188C@InternetPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Bev: Given that you started off with ?Just doing the teak handrails,? I assume that your interest is limited to ?how? and not ?whether.? If you are considering going to stainless, I have done so on two boats and have been very pleased. However: a) stainless (although stronger and maintenance free) can be a little slippery when wet; and b) despite Herculean template efforts, we were never able to get the bolts on the replacement rails lined up perfectly with the old bolts holes, so some filling and drilling was required. On my 34, the handrail came with bolts welded in place, so we could see where the holes needed to go (they still needed to be oversized for some installation ?play?). On my current boat, the handrail design had changed, and the ?feet? have nuts welded in place (so you use regular bolts from the inside). To deal with this, I screwed some small pieces of threaded rod into the feet so I could determine where the bolt holes should go. In addition, the heat of welding the nuts in place can distort threads, and Whitewater Marine did not re-tap the threads on the feet as they should have. As a result, we broke off two bolts on my current boat before we figured out what was going on. In short, going to stainless will likely be more of a project, but they?re very strong, maintenance free, and you?ll only do it once. If you are only concerned about whether or not to epoxy, my understanding is that if water gets into epoxy-entombed wood, the wood can rot from the inside without fair warning. Probably better to go with a UV-protectant varnish which, unlike with stainless, you will be doing again someday. Good luck. Matt From: John Conklin via CnC-List Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 10:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: John Conklin Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not. Me too 2nd the vote for the stainless! https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ux528c82YTnHOi5ufTJ63xuGtFAm7lYQ John Conklin On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 6:31 PM Bev Parslow via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Just doing the teak handrails. They are coming up quite well BUT do I epoxy and then 3-4 coats of varnish or just put the varnish on an skip the epoxy? _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190219/b2b79d70/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 07:48:56 -0600 From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> To: David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not. Message-ID: <388d14e4-386c-4e57-9b2d-a2f6ad6aa...@postaudio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" +1 on AwlWood ? I did my handrails and dorade boxes a couple of years ago, and they still look great! ? Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Feb 18, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Dave Godwin via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > You might want to investigate AwlWood MA > <https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=97753> > from AwlGrip. I?m using it and like it. > > Regards, > Dave Godwin > 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin > Reedville - Chesapeake Bay > Ronin?s Overdue Refit <http://roninrebuild.blogspot.com/> > >> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:30 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: >> >> Just doing the teak handrails. They are coming up quite well BUT do I epoxy >> and then 3-4 coats of varnish or just put the varnish on an skip the epoxy? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190219/16cecc42/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 10:18:08 -0500 From: Dreuge <dre...@gmail.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not. Message-ID: <65e4cee0-dac8-43b6-b56d-ef21cb064...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I?m a big stainless fan, but not so much for handrails in the summer sun. I was seriously considering stainless for my handrails as I had a friend who went that route. But when I went to admire and be inspired by his rails, I grabbed ahold of one and nearly got 2nd degree burn. The impression I got was that a hot rail is a safety concern. I?m thinking of HDPE rails (aka a Starboard equivalent) may be the way to go. While StarBoard/SeaBoard are a bit pricey, there are equivalents such as outdoor grade HDPE or UV stabilized HDPE sign boards which cost nearly half as much. - Paul E. 1981 C&C Landfall 38 S/V Johanna Rose Fort Walton Beach, FL http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > On Feb 18, 2019, at 10:11 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 21:15:43 -0500 > From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com <mailto:muckl...@gmail.com>> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Epoxy or not. > Message-ID: > <ca+zacrbqcw3b5szxr2q4ehfo45jy2gcald0yyjfb9dzhhe2...@mail.gmail.com > <mailto:ca+zacrbqcw3b5szxr2q4ehfo45jy2gcald0yyjfb9dzhhe2...@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Replace with stainless steel. I think I paid $100 for each rail. Custom > made to fit the original holes. > > Whitewatermarine.com <http://whitewatermarine.com/> > > https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yd0UxdVVfWkEybjA > <https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8pEh5lnvP1yd0UxdVVfWkEybjA> > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20190219/6b4ad011/attachment.html> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ------------------------------ End of CnC-List Digest, Vol 157, Issue 38 *****************************************
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