I have a set of LED replacement bulbs for my forward running light.  But I’ll 
be damned if I can figure out how to access the socket.  Before I break 
something, any lister with the same fixture (89-94 34+ or 37+) have experience 
changing these out?

thx

Tom Buscaglia
S/V Alera 
1990 C&C 37+/40
Vashon WA
P 206.463.9200
C 305.409.3660


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> Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 07:26:51 -0400
> From: Chuck Gilchrest <csgilchr...@comcast.net>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Steering cable questions for Chuck
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> There should always be sufficient tension in the steering cables that they 
> are never ?slack? enough to allow the adjusting bolts to be loose.
> If the swaged Rod is so corroded that it can?t  be slid through the holes in 
> the quadrant, or turned to adjust tension, simply cut them off and replace 
> the chain/ cable assembly.  It?s time!  Once the cable is cut, you?ll be able 
> to unscrew the rod using a vice grip or other such tool.
> But I can?t stress this enough:  don?t take cheap shortcuts regarding 
> steering system components.  By performing regular maintenance on cable 
> tension, inspection and lubrication using Edson guidelines, you can avoid 
> scenarios like Dennis is experiencing.  In terms of priority maintenance, I 
> rank steering right behind flotation (seacocks and through hulls).
> Chuck Gilchrest 
> S/V Half Magic
> 1983 35 Landfall 
> Padanaram, MA
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>> On May 10, 2019, at 4:53 PM, DMcMillan via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe if the swaged threaded rod was not corroded in the hole, it is 
>> possible that there could be some movement of the rod when it is not under 
>> tension i.e. the wheel is turned in the opposite direction.   The movement 
>> in the hole could possibly damage the threads making adjustment difficult?
>> 
>> BTW, what is a ?take up eye??  you mean an eye bolt?
>> 
>> Dennis M
>> 
>> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: May 10, 2019 11:25 AM
>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Steering cable questions for Chuck
>> 
>> Makes sense.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> 
>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 1:09 PM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> I neglected to answer the second question:
>> These days, take up eyes are simply easier to install in the system.  If you 
>> have swaged threaded rod on the end of the cables, it can be a bear to 
>> thread down through the idler and turning sheaves around and through  the 
>> holes on a quadrant or radial, whereas using take up eyes makes for a much 
>> easier threading of the steering cables through the sheaves and around the 
>> quadrant.  The take up eyes can be pre-installed on the radial or quadrant 
>> and much of the initial tension can be pre-tensioned with rope clamps, 
>> adjusting the final length of the steering cable.
>> Also, a swaged rod can be subject to crevice corrosion where the cable end 
>> is installed into the threaded rod fitting, similar to a lifeline.  Hard to 
>> see the corrosion when it is covered.
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 35 Landfall
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
>> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 1:48 PM
>> To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> Cc: Dennis C. <capt...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Stus-List Steering cable questions for Chuck
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> Why does Edson not want a nut opposite the tensioning and lock nuts.  Just 
>> because it is redundant and serves no purpose?
>> 
>> Is a tensioning stud bad?  Is an adjusting eye better?
>> 
>> Dennis C.
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
>> 
>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 10:17 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> Per Edson?s instructions, both nuts go on the ?bitter end? of the cable.  
>> One is to tension the cable, the other is a locking nut to prevent the other 
>> nut from coming loose.
>> FWIW, if you?re dealing with a swaged threaded rod on the end of the cable 
>> and chain, you?re using a 38 year old steering component that is recommended 
>> to be changed every 10 years.  So cut the cable, remove the threaded rod 
>> from the radial drive, get a new chain/cable set up with take up eyes and 
>> rope clamps and be happy the old one never failed!
>> Chuck Gilchrest 
>> 1983 Landfall 35
>> 
>> 
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> "Like Dennis experienced".  Past tense.  Done.  :)
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> https://drive.google.com/file/d/115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd/view?usp=drivesdk
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> Chuck's advice and info was very valuable to the project.  Thanks to Rob
> and Neil also.  Touche's steering system is literally better than new.
> 
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2019, 6:27 AM Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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>> 
> But I can?t stress this enough:  don?t take cheap shortcuts regarding
>> steering system components.  By performing regular maintenance on cable
>> tension, inspection and lubrication using Edson guidelines, you can avoid
>> scenarios like Dennis is experiencing.  In terms of priority maintenance, I
>> rank steering right behind flotation (seacocks and through hulls).
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1983 35 Landfall
>> Padanaram, MA
>> 
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