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Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1




 From:   Randy Stafford <randal.staff...@icloud.com> 
 To:   cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
 Sent:   6/27/2019 10:16 AM 
 Subject:   Stus-List Survey About Racing 

Hello Listers, 
 
I’d like to conduct a little survey about racing, tapping into the broad 
experience, geography, and boat diversity represented on this list. 
 
What prompted this is a discussion in my club about ratings, which expanded 
into a discussion about courses, tactics, and relative performance.  I’d like 
to get perspective from the collective knowledge on this list, to add into that 
discussion. 
 
So here are some fairly objective survey questions, for those of you who race 
your boats: 
 
1. Where do you race? Lake Ontario


2. What wind conditions are the rule and exception there? 
6 - 14 knots in the spring. Lots of light or dead air in the summer.
Frequent storms, squalls may hit 40 - 60 knots briefly. When the
lake is cold there can be wind shear.


3. What kind of courses do you sail? 
W/L club races and at regattas, short ( < 20 nm ) medium ( < 100 nm )
and one long ( Lake Ontario 300 ) course race,


4. What sail plan do you fly? Mainly flying sail. 195% spinnakers both asymm 
and symm from a pole.


5. What model of boat are you racing? C&C 30-1 < 506


6. What PHRF rating do you race with? (please list adjustments) 
PHRF-LO FS: 175 NFS: 199  credit of 4 sec/mile for the main, -3 sec/mile 
penalty for 195% spin.
Note that PHRF-LO adjusts based on main sail area but calculates the standard 
area using a
default with lots of roach. My main does touch the backstay, lightly hangs up 
on tacks.


7. What is your boat’s fastest point of sail? 
Surfing under spinnaker. The C&C 30-1 is difficult to get over hull speed so 
even reaching
at 30+ knots doesn't get close to planning ;-)


8. Is there leapfrogging in your races, or do boat-for-boat positions stay 
fairly constant? 
Some of the division have a wide rating spread, the fast boats pull ahead and 
stay there.
With light summer wind and the random wind hole lead reversals are common.


9. How many boats are you usually competing against? As little as 4, as much as 
11.


10. In general, how well do you perform in racing results? 
Windburn even for a C&C 30-1 is heavy. We are disadvantaged in light air, do 
well
in heavy air. As a guess 75% of the time we are in the top 3. On our best days 
we
have taken first at the Youngstown Levels, Lake Ontario 300 and LOSHRS races.


 
And now a few more subjective questions: 
 
11. Do you think your boat’s rating assumes you’ll race it on a particular kind 
of course with a particular sail plan? 
PHRF-LO states that the rating is suitable ( paraphrasing it here ) for 
windward leeward course of one mile legs in
winds of 4 to 18 knots. No data from triangular or course racing is analyzed 
for rating reviews. 


12. How do you think your local rating authority determines the rating for your 
boat? 
Initially a new boat ( class ) goes through an assessment at a handicapper's 
district meeting. We discuss
everything including US PHRF data, sister classes and comparable. We make a 
best estimate then the
rating is adjusted by -6 sec/mile "Protect The Fleet" for the first year until 
race data is available.


13. What do you think are the most important factors in your performance 
against your competition? 
Making the best of a heavy C&C 30-1. Recently the addition of North Sails 3Di 
155% raw genoa and
main has helped a lot in the light wind.


14. What do you think are the most important race tactics for beating your 
competition? 


Calling lay lines, watching for shifts, avoiding wind holes


 
Thank you very much in advance for your responses to this survey. 
 
Best Regards, 
Randy Stafford 
S/V Grenadine 
C&C 30-1 #7 
Ken Caryl, CO 
 
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