Thanks guys!  I appreciate the guidance very much.

Pete W.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re:  Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question (Robert Boyer)
   2.  Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question (Dreuge)
   3. Re:  Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question (bwhitmore)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 12:54:06 -0400
From: Robert Boyer <dainyr...@icloud.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question
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It is not simply high or low density?the tank was made from LLDPE and rods must 
be the same material.

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C&C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Presently in Baltimore for the summer)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Sep 7, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The tank was made from LLDPE.  Make sure your weld rods are the exact same 
> material!
> 
> Bob Boyer
> S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
> Blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
> Email: dainyr...@icloud.com
> Annapolis, MD
> (Presently in Baltimore MD for the summer)
> 
>> On Sep 6, 2019, at 6:31 PM, kelly petew via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My water tank is leaking again. I want to attempt a weld to repair it.
>>  
>> It is a Kracor polypropylene tank, but the labeling details have faded over 
>> time, and no longer legible.  I don?t know what kind of polypropylene was 
>> used to construct the tank.
>>  So, the question is, do I use hi-density OR lo-density polypropylene?  Or, 
>> does it matter?
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Pete W.
>> Siren Song
>> C&C 30-2
>> Deltaville, Va. 
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Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 17:32:36 -0400
From: Dreuge <dre...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question
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Hi Pete,

Plastic welding is the way to go.  I tried various ways to repair tanks, but my 
welded repairs (I fixed 3 tanks now by welding) have had no problems.  Plastic 
welding is rather easy to do.  The key is getting good plastic welding rods.   
I normally use a hot air welder, but if you are very careful, you can use make 
due with a propane torch.  Though I highly recommend borrowing or buying a 
welder.  Harbor Freight sells a reasonable welder for about $60, and since they 
always have 20-25% off coupons, it would cost about $45.

Small leaks are easy to fix.  If you have a more serious repair, like a long 
crack due to poor structural support, then repair and split it with some 316 
stainless mesh. 

I purchased a package of 1/8" LDPE welding rods from Grainger. As I recall, it 
was 50 rods for $15.   I also purchased 316 mesh from Grainger.

I have details on my blog. Below is the link.  Skip down to the section on 
plastic welding.

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/WaterTankRepair


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C Landfall 38
S/V Johanna Rose
Fort Walton Beach, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Sep 7, 2019, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:31:13 +0000
> From: kelly petew <kellype...@msn.com <mailto:kellype...@msn.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" 
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> My water tank is leaking again. I want to attempt a weld to repair it.
> 
> It is a Kracor polypropylene tank, but the labeling details have faded over 
> time, and no longer legible.  I don't know what kind of polypropylene was 
> used to construct the tank.
> So, the question is, do I use hi-density OR lo-density polypropylene?  Or, 
> does it matter?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Pete W.
> Siren Song
> C&C 30-2
> Deltaville, Va.

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Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2019 04:18:18 -0400
From: bwhitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question
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I 100% with Paul's comments below.? By the way, it will likely take more 
plastic welding rods than you think.? In a pinch I cut up some Tupperware type 
lids that were labeled LDPE and they sufficed when I ran short.? That said, not 
all LDPE is the same, and HDPE will definitely NOT work for welding LDPE.Hoping 
you find this helpful,?Bruce?Sent from Samsung tablet.

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Date: 9/7/2019  5:32 PM  (GMT-05:00)
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Cc: Dreuge <dre...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Water Tank Woes [again] - Welding Question 

Hi Pete,Plastic welding is the way to go. ?I tried various ways to repair 
tanks, but my welded repairs (I fixed 3 tanks now by welding) have had no 
problems. ?Plastic welding is rather easy to do. ?The key is getting good 
plastic welding rods. ? I normally use a hot air welder, but if you are very 
careful, you can use make due with a propane torch. ?Though I highly recommend 
borrowing or buying a welder. ?Harbor Freight sells a reasonable welder for 
about $60, and since they always have 20-25% off coupons, it would cost about 
$45.Small leaks are easy to fix. ?If you have a more serious repair, like a 
long crack due to poor structural support, then repair and split it with some 
316 stainless mesh.?I purchased a package of 1/8" LDPE welding rods from 
Grainger. As I recall, it was 50 rods for $15. ? I also purchased 316 mesh from 
Grainger.I have details on my blog. Below is the link. ?Skip down to the 
section on plastic 
welding.http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/search/label/WaterTankRepair-Paul 
E.1981 C&C Landfall 38?S/V Johanna RoseFort Walton Beach, 
FLhttp://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

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2Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 22:31:13 +0000From: kelly petew <kellype...@msn.com>To: 
"cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>Subject: Stus-List Water Tank 
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        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"My water tank is leaking 
again. I want to attempt a weld to repair it.It is a Kracor polypropylene tank, 
but the labeling details have faded over time, and no longer legible. ?I don't 
know what kind of polypropylene was used to construct the tank.So, the question 
is, do I use hi-density OR lo-density polypropylene? ?Or, does it 
matter?Thanks!Pete W.Siren SongC&C 30-2Deltaville, Va.
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