I’d definitely be game for a rendezvous south of Virginia. If in southern NC or 
south, I’d bring the boat. 


Barbara L. HicksonC&C 33-1 Flight RiskChas., SC
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re:  Toe Rail Resealing (Rick Brass)
  2. Re:  Rudder lubrication Landfall 38 (Rick Brass)
  3. Re:  2020 Rendezvous (s) Mid East (cscheaffer)
  4.  C&C Rendezvous -- Florida (February 2020?) (Edd Schillay)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:33:52 -0500
From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Toe Rail Resealing
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I think you?ll find the consensus of advice to be ?Don?t do it.?

 

The hull to deck joint and toe rail on the older C&Cs is a pretty well 
engineered setup that will last a lifetime. There are several  hundred of us on 
the list, and I suspect the number who have had leaks in the toe rail or hull 
to deck join is near single digits.

 

Basically the joint (from bottom to  top) is as follows: Inward facing flange 
on the hull, layer of butyl, rubber rub rail riveted to the hull flange, 
another layer of butyl, the deck, another layer of butyl, the toe rail, then it 
is all through bolted with stainless oval head machine screws. My 25 has screws 
every 6? (IIRC) and my 38 is bolted every 4?. Removing the bolts and toe rail 
can possibly compromise every layer of the seal.

 

If you have an owners? manual (or buy one from the Photo Album website) you can 
see a cross section of the joint.

 

In almost all cases the recommended fix for a leak (which seem to mostly be 
around the machine screws) is to tighten the through bolts about ? to a full 
turn, and apply Captain Tolley?s Creeping Crack Cure to the inside edge of the 
toe rail to deck joint. 

 

Tightening the bolts is a two man job ? the person on top holds the screw in 
place so it does not turn (which breaks the seal of the butyl and can result in 
a leak) while the person below tightens the nut a bit. Be careful not to 
overtighten the nut because you can squeeze all of the butyl out of the joint.

 

Rick Brass

Imzadi  C&C 38 mk2 #47

la Belle Aurore  C&C 25 mk1 #225

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of James 
Hesketh via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 7:52 AM
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Cc: James Hesketh <jameshesk...@gmail.com>
Subject: Stus-List Toe Rail Resealing

 

I'm getting ready to pull the toe rail on my '78 26 to reseal, and will also do 
the same with the bow fitting once the rails are refitted and I can tie off the 
headsail halyard to it.  

 

Anyone have any words of wisdom before I begin? 

 

TIA

Jim Hesketh

Whisper C&C 26

Miami, FL

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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 13:36:14 -0500
From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net>
To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38
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Ditto.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of ed 
vanderkruk via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2019 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rudder lubrication Landfall 38

 

I made up a couple of discs from Delrin for a bearing.

 

Ed

 

Prime Interest

C&C LF38

Toronto, Canada

 

On Tue., Nov. 5, 2019, 7:45 a.m. Simon and Silvana via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I have removed the rudder and would like guidance on the type of lubricant to 
use in the lower section where the rudder passes through the fibreglass tube.

What is the best replacement material for the nylon (?) disc of the thrust 
bearing?

Has anyone installed a grease fitting in the thrust bearing?

Thanks

Simon

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Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 14:14:43 -0500
From: cscheaffer <cscheaf...@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous (s) Mid East
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YOU GO JOHN.? Some skippers would attend several rendezvous dates as long as 
they are spread out.? ?The Baltimore event looks scheduled and Edd Shillay 
seems open to a Florida rendezvous this winter.? I encourage everyone to 
participate and meet up at these get togethers where ever they happen and when 
time permits as the people are rare and wonderful.? So glad I drove to the St 
Michaels gathering.? I plan to get my boat to the next one, but I'd fly to 
Florida at the right time of year, maybe others, I'd drive.Sent from my 
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Date: 11/4/19  6:42 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 
Rendezvous (s) Mid East I would support something in the mid-Atlantic. If close 
, I?might take boat to it. If inconvenient for that, I would likely show up via 
wheels.Charlie NelsonS/V Water Phantom1995?C&C XL/kcb?Sent from AOL Mobile 
MailGet the new AOL app: mail.mobile.aol.com


    On?Friday, November 1, 2019,?John Conklin via 
CnC-List?<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>?wrote:


Also, I am still interested in pulling together some kind of rendezvous for us 
folks little further south, SC NC, GA (by wheels)VA if they don?t go north.....
We spoke of doing this earlier and if we start planning now good chance we 
could hustle up 5-10 boats by end of season ??
John, Rick, Mark, Charlie, Jim, Francois,... thoughts ?

John Conklin?
S/V Halcyon
S/V Heartbeat
www.flirtingwithfire.com




On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
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Dennis, I'm not on the coast, but I would surely be of help to the person 
(who's initials are DC) who hosts it!


Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596



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Sent: Fri, Nov 1, 2019 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List 2020 Rendezvous (s)




I like it.? Perhaps the Northeast Rendezvous could be the weekend before or 
after?? If so, the Admiral and I would be tempted to attend both with a week of 
land touring in between.??


Baltimore is a good location.? The Admiral and I spent a couple nights at the 
Inner Harbor after last year's rendezvous.? Touring the old ships was pretty 
cool.


I just wish there were enough listers on the northern Gulf Coast for a 
rendezvous here.??


Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 5:41 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
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I'm pretty sure that that is sufficient for a final established date and 
location.? I'm making the call.


THERE IT IS FOLKS!? THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE 2020 MID-ATLANTIC C&C 
RENDEZVOUS!? TO BE HELD ON THE LAST WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER (25, 26, 27) IN 
BALTIMORE MARYLAND AT ANCHORAGE MARINA!




More to follow,?


Josh Muckley?














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Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:48:41 -0500
From: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com>
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Subject: Stus-List C&C Rendezvous -- Florida (February 2020?)
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Listers,

There appears to be some interest in a winter rendezvous in sunny Florida ? 
here are a few thoughts:

1. As you know, Florida has two coasts, east and west, with the Enterprise and 
Water Phantom on the west coast (35 miles apart) and some others on the east 
coast. I think the idea of having an actual boat rendezvous in a place that is 
reachable for people to sail to is pretty slim. I also know of three other C&Cs 
in the gulf coast and Tampa Bay areas.  

2. Because we all boat here year-round (suck it, northerners!) marina space for 
more than a handful of boats seems to be a stretch. Then again, see #1 above. 

3. That being said, I could organize a C&C Owners? Rendezvous in Sarasota (even 
at my club in Venice), Tampa, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, or other such place that 
could be an easy drive or flight.

I welcome everyone?s (even David Risch?s) thoughts and then I?ll put out a 
survey. Should we have a owners? rendezvous, what kinds of things would you 
like the group to do (You know, besides eat and drink) ? seminar, guest 
speaker, etc.?  

If we were to do something in the Venice - Sarasota - Tampa - Clearwater area, 
I?m sure we could get the Enterprise and Water Phantom, and perhaps one or two 
more, to a location. I am confident that I can organize hotel (or hotel 
options) and a place for us to meet as I do marketing and event planning for a 
living.

Warning though -- I understand in February it can be a little chilly here, with 
highs in the mid 70s. Brrrrr. (Insert evil laugh here.)  

Chime in, folks. Please. 


All the best,

Edd


Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice, FL

Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/>






    




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