Don’t live dangerously -- fix the stringers.
From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 12:35 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Swensen <ka123dswense...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and Keel repair 35 MK III That is quite a process. The yard suggested about 20k for that extent of a repair. From what the surveyor sounded out, it seems to be a much smaller sectionof the grid. So to restore as much structural integrity, Iwill have raise the hull off the keel by a few inches on jackstands, replace/ restore the stringers, and then rebed and glass in the keel. This I can do in my back yard. I think a lift would be necessary to address any possible cracks in the fiberglass where the keel bolt holes are drilled through. The yard also suggested just rebedding shimming, and glassing the keel hull joint a as a less expensive option, and seeing how long it lasts. I am leaning toward addressing the stringers for a longer term solution. Whereas I would be doing most of t he work, I am glad to have this list and all the knowledge you guys and gals have. David S/v Freya 35 MK lII Salem, MA On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 12:00 PM <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III (CHARLES SCHEAFFER) 2. Re: Folding deck chairs (Marek Dziedzic) 3. Re: Folding deck chairs (Matthew) 4. Re: Folding deck chairs (Dennis C.) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net <mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III That repair job cost more than three times the value of the boat. Where are the keel bolts? Awlgrip in the bilge? Ch-ching $$$ CS On 07/24/2020 8:32 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Coincidentally, I was just perusing a site yesterday that touched on this – a repair yard on the Hudson. http://marinestructuralsolutions.com/?page=jobs Bill Coleman Entrada, Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> ] On Behalf Of David Swensen via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2020 7:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: David Swensen Subject: Stus-List Stringer and keel repair 35 MK III Unfortunately, I had to haul Feya because of a leaking at the most aft keel bolt. The surveyor at the yard has determined that the boat was grounded at one time and there is at least one stringer that has separated from the hull. ( I wish the surveyor for the purchase found this). When the hull is sounded in that area, it sounds like there are marbles inside. The plan is to repair the stringer and rebed and glass in the keel. I will be able to bring the boat to my backyard and do it on my time. I will have the yard rebed because they will drop the keel and eval the condition of the bottom of the keel stub, and repair if necessary. They will also place shims to decrease play at the joint. My question is, should the stringer be repaired before or after the keel hull joint? Thanks in advance. David Swensen Freya C&C 35 MK III Salem, MA _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com <mailto:dziedzi...@hotmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> " <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:19:34 +0000 Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs We have an older version of the WM low-back seat (it is a bit higher, I think, than what WM sells now, and it does not have the opening at the hinge). We use it all the time. WM used to have a longer back version, as well. It supports your back quite well and it can be used flat, as a cockpit cushion. We have cockpit cushions, but usually, we just use these folding seats instead. Marek From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: 24 July, 2020 10:37 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com <mailto:e...@schillay.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs David, I really like these: https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2 Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in the cockpit. We use them all the time. For extra support, try this: https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1 VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go sailing without it. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> On Jul 24, 2020, at 10:28 AM, James Hesketh via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: David wrote: We do not have cockpit cushions an Aries, so have been considering some sort of folding deck chair as a substitute for the rare times we are sitting in the cockpit or deck at anchor/mooring/slip. I have seen various types of folding chairs at Boat Shows and Amazon. Have people had good experiences with any of these products that they can recommend? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Matthew <wolf...@erie.net <mailto:wolf...@erie.net> > To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:37:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs Coincidentally, David, one of my crew recently donated as a gift to the boat six of the chairs Edd likes (the first link). We have only used them once, but they seem to work well and are comfortable. They are a little large for certain areas in the cockpit. My crew member said he wants to figure out a way to secure them to the top of the winches when we’re sitting around at the dock. We also have regular cushions for the cockpit (without backs). The upholsterer used some heavy duty closed cell foam which you would think would be uncomfortable but is actually quite comfortable. For the covers, we used an outdoor fabric called Phifertex. The fabric stands up to a lot of abuse and was almost a perfect match for my cockpit gelcoat. They dress up the boat for entertaining. From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> > On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Friday, July 24, 2020 10:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com <mailto:e...@schillay.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs David, I really like these: https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-low-back-seat-2--10385656?recordNum=2 Good support, easy to store, and can be used flat as a bench cushion in the cockpit. We use them all the time. For extra support, try this: https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--go-anywhere-high-back-seat--10967917?recordNum=1 VERY comfortable. My wife won’t go sailing without it. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log <http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Dennis C." <capt...@gmail.com <mailto:capt...@gmail.com> > To: CnClist <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 10:45:05 -0500 Subject: Re: Stus-List Folding deck chairs We also used stadium chairs for a while. They worked OK but we took them off the boat for space and weight considerations. Now we use folded beach towels and cushions from the settee and dinette below. On another note, we keep a folding table similar to one of these on board: https://www.woodscanada.com/products/folding-camp-table Stores easily in the hanging locker. We use it in the cockpit or between the settee and dinette when the dinette is converted to a bed. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 9:35 AM Randy Stafford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: I watched a lot of my daughters’ volleyball games sitting on a product like this: https://www.amazon.com/Flash-Furniture-Seats-Stadium-Ultra-Padded/dp/B01DF0467O or this: https://www.amazon.com/Smartxchoices-Portable-Bleacher-Shoulder-Lightweight/dp/B07NC9HQDZ. Beats hell out of wooden bleachers for hours on end. Cheers, Randy _______________________________________________ CnC-List mailing list CnC-List@cnc-list.com <mailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
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