A great segue to my next question for the list:
I had my last laminate sail (probably 3-5 in total after the past 15+ years) 
fall apart after ~ 4-5 years of club use in NC (North 3Di) and have decided 
that my next headsail (155%) will NOT be a laminate. I too have old Dacron 
sails (90% and 140%) that have not been used much and look/feel like new. 
My question is--I'd like some opinions from the listers on the material and the 
sail maker. I am thinking of dacron and North (Nordac).
I have had super life out of my Hood main (high denier dacron with Vectran), 
used now for 10 years and still going. However, the headsail they sold me was 
never cut correctly, even after I returned it to the loft--so I won't go there, 
even if Hood still existed.(I think Quantum took over Hood after Ted's 
passing). 
I am an active CLUB racer, occasionally doing CRW but very far from 'Grand 
Prix' racing--but I do have a ORC measurement certificate! Most of my racing is 
buoy in the NC sounds where the wind rarely gets above 15 knots and the 
temperature rarely is below 70 degrees when racing.
At the risk of getting as many suggestions as listers (maybe more!), what do 
the listers think about non-laminate sail material, cuts, molded, etc. Whatever 
I settle on will be measured by the sailmaker on the boat.
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom



-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 11:13 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler question

Dacron seems to last forever if it is clean dry and out of the sun.  My #1 is 
from around 1990 and looks like new.  I've used it twice.  PO might have used 
it occasionally.
Joel
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:04 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I really only have one furling full hoist sail, so it wasn’t that bad. My 
genoas are deck sweepers and need the furling drum removed and the jib and 
storm jib are not even close to full hoist.Speaking of, the jib dates to 1973 
and the storm jib to 1979. I don’t think either one has been out of their bags 
in this century!How long do sails last anyway? Maybe they’ll fall apart if 
used. I don’t think the storm jib has more than 1,000 miles total use ever, but 
its old. The old working jib got used plenty back in the day. The last time I 
had that one up was around 1990 in about 50-60 knots running dead downwind. 
That was a fun day 😊JoeCoquina From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2021 10:53 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Furler question The perfect solution to the 
problem Joe! Depending on the difference between 'too high and too low', 
finding the sweet spot could be a chore and would likely require different 
shackle lengths at the deck level for different sails.  A proper restrainer 
allows more 'slop' in the effective luff length without chewing up the 
halyard/sheave and prevents the wrapping problem. Perhaps not the perfect 
solution but a good one that works--keeping in mind the adage to '...not let 
the perfect be the enemy of the good..!' YMMV Charlie NelsonWater Phantom

-----Original Message-----
From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2021 8:35 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: Furler questionWhat I discovered was the overall 
position of the halyard and top swivel was critical. Assuming you have a full 
hoist sail and no retainer, you need to adjust the shackle length at deck level 
to get the halyard as far up as you can without running the nicropress into the 
sheave. Too high and it chews up the halyard and sheave and/or you can’t get 
correct tension, too low and it wraps.JoeCoquinaThanks to all of the 
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