Your rigger is on the mark regarding adding bend to the mast (and stiffening it
to some degree since it attaches lower than the head stay). If it is left in
place and used, the mainsail should be cut appropriately so that when the stay
is on, the luff is pulled forward somewhat by it and the backstay adjuster adds
to this 'bend' if used.
Of course if removed and the mainsail was cut for it to be used, the main won't
quite match what it was designed for. Thus if it is removed/not used, this
should be accounted for when a new main sail is added to the boat.
BTW, my former baby stay was adjustable via a track on the foredeck and my boat
has always had a hydraulic backstay adjuster. Between those two, I could put a
pretty good bend in my mast if I wanted. Locally however, this was rarely
needed and the head sail/baby stay interaction during every tack was a PITA, in
addition to destroying my head sails.
My local sail maker had a look and figured that since my spreaders were
perpendicular to the lubber line (not angled aft) that the baby stay could go.
Removed it and its track and never looked back--or have gone seriously offshore
since.
Charlie
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From: Riley Anderson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Riley Anderson <svfreighttr...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2021 10:54 am
Subject: Stus-List Re: Baby stay vs new headsail
Interesting. Our 38-ii had a babystay but it was removed by the previous owner.
I've been told by a local rigger that the babystay does not support the mast in
any significant manner, but rather adds bend for going upwind. Then again, our
boat also had a hydraulic backstay adjuster (also for adding bend). Does anyone
else have both a babystay and hydraulic adjuster? Charlie's anecdote makes it
sound like the babystay was acting as an auxiliary lower shroud. I just assumed
that without a bulkhead mounted chainplate, the babystay couldn't possibly be
relied upon as a shroud.
We've only had our boat out in 18 knots (first reef in main, 120 genoa). Rig
was very stiff in these conditions without a babystay or hydraulic adjuster. I
keep the Dyneema shrouds pretty tight.
On Thu, Sep 2, 2021 at 9:55 AM Richard Bush via CnC-List
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
Peter, unless you sail in a heavy air area, just don't use the baby stay; we
bungee ours to the mast and it makes no difference at all; except that the crew
is a lot less stressed out during tacks....I am confident that if it were
removed, no one would even notice...!
Richard
s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
502-584-7255
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From: Peter McMinn via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 2, 2021 12:29 am
Subject: Stus-List Baby stay vs new headsail
We’ve been sailing this summer with two exhausted composite headsails (110&125)
purchased with our 37, Sirius.The leeches on both sails reveal a tortured past
with the babystay. With a new Precision tiradial 120 coming over winter, we’re
practicing tacks with no babystay contact, backwinding lightly to pull the sail
over.Improvement needed.For those of you with babystays, what strategies do you
employ to avoid sail contact with the stay and/or minimizing damage?I’ll search
archives, too. Thx
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