So a deleterious effect despite the increased WLL On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 5:25 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> Found this in Sailing Anarchy – > > Back to the drawing board. > > Bulbous bows are designed to "cancel" out the hull's bow wave by inducing > their own wave set that has the same frequency, but opposite phase, thereby > reducing wave making resistance. > > > > To make this work, the boat's speed has be within a very tight specified > range and the amplitude of the pitching moment has be relatively small to > keep the bulb at the proper depth. > > > > Neither of these conditions can be met on a small-ish hull form. The > additional wetted surface and form drag eats you up. > > > > Was tried in the 70's on 6 Meters and flopped horribly. > > > > > > *From:* dwight veinot via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 01, 2021 4:14 PM > *To:* Stus-List > *Cc:* dwight veinot > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Burnished bottom paint > > > > Would a bulbous bow below the waterline help > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 9:31 PM schiller via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > No, but we did add "turbulators" to the tail section of the GBU-24 Bunker > Buster Guided Bomb to break up the boundary layer between the bomb body and > the wing section, causing turbulent flow over the wings. > > Neil Schiller > 1983 C&C #5-3, #028, "Grace" > Whitehall, Michigan > > On 11/30/2021 6:05 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List wrote: > > Indeed. You don't see dimples on the wings of aircraft, for a good > reason... > > Graham Collins > > CS 36T > > On 2021-11-30 3:50 p.m., Dreuge via CnC-List wrote: > > > > On Nov 30, 2021, at 1:47 PM, Doug via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > > This is the reason golf balls have dimples. Aides in better flight, less > resistance. > > > > > > > > > > Yes (if spinning) and No (as it adds lateral resistance). > > > > Going with a smooth surface is the overall best approach as it promotes > smooth laminar flow. There are times when a ruff surface helps maintain > laminar flow. For example, the dimples on a golf ball create a thin > turbulent layer which drags air and helps keep the lamina flow closer to > the surface behind the ball. The dimples add resistance to the flow but > reduces the air wake behind the ball which reduces the overall drag force. > The laminar flow around a smooth ball does not wrap around the back of the > ball as well and leaves a larger wake. The larger the wake, the larger the > drag. > > > > I think it would be foolish to add dimples or an orange peel bottom, > unless you have the resources to model and measure the effect for a > particular boat. Maybe adding some aft ruffness as the hull as turns > inward, but this will strongly depend on the individual hull shape and > likely have a positive effect at high water speeds (and a negative effect > at low). Of course, a great way to reduce one's wake is to foil. > > > > Most may recall that dimples of a spinning golf ball help in another and > bigger way by providing lift(i.e. aids in better flight). The spinning > dimples drag air towards incoming flow and drag air away from the flow on > the opposite side causing a high/low pressure difference (i.e. lateral > lift force). This latter effect has not yet been exploited by sailors. > Who knows, maybe we’ll see a spinning belted keel in the future driven by > Kiwi’s pedal power. > > > > > > - > Paul E. > > 1981 C&C Landfall 38 > S/V Johanna Rose > Fort Walton Beach, FL > > > > http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > -- > > Sent from Gmail Mobile > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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