Has anyone heard anything regarding this year’s Rendezvous in BC? Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660
> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > Same. Have had a voyage to St Pierre and Miquelon on the bucket list since > I was a kid, thanks to Farley Mowat. I reread that book last summer, and > enjoyed it just as much as I did back in the 70s, and probably laughed even > more. > > Dave > > > >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:19, Andrew Burton via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> On side note. I grew up sailing on my dad’s C&C 27 in British Columbia. On >> one cruise, I read a book by Canadian author Farley Mowat called The Boat >> Who Wouldn’t Float, about a pair of fellows buying and converting a small >> fishing schooner in Newfoundland. >> Mowat talks a lot about the area and I’ve wanted to cruise there since. My >> club has a cruise in Nfld this summer but my wife thinks we should attend >> our daughter’s wedding instead of joining them. >> I highly recommend the book for any sailor with a sense of humour: “Black >> coffee made with rum as a substitute for water is a drink of considerable >> authority.” >> >> Andy >> >> Andrew Burton >> 26 Beacon Hill >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> +401 965-5260 >> >>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 21:06, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I don't think it is easy to stay in the US for more than 12 month either. >>> But you only have to leave and go to another country for 15 days, then you >>> can return and start the clock over again. I'm not sure what the similar >>> rule is for Canada. >>> >>> Ken H. >>> >>>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:44, Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon. >>>> >>>> Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly >>>> and return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too >>>> long or they lose their paid status. >>>> I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future! >>>> Dave >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List >>>>>> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> Ken, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter. >>>>> >>>>> Robert Abbott >>>>> AZURA >>>>> C&C 32 - #277 >>>>> Halifax, N.S. >>>>> >>>>> On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote: >>>>>> Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept >>>>>> their boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever >>>>>> actually officially importing them, so never paid import duties: >>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571 >>>>>> >>>>>> In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to >>>>>> have any lasting effect on Henry's business. The Cape Breton Boat Yard >>>>>> in Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ken H.. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12 >>>>>>> months). The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books >>>>>>> for at least 20 years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been >>>>>>> spottily enforced. In theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter >>>>>>> (stay longer than 12 months) in Canada without being legally imported >>>>>>> and paying duty. But there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it >>>>>>> may stay—and the repairs, maintenance and storage of such yachts has >>>>>>> been the core business of Henry Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in >>>>>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And though the necessary “repairs” may not have >>>>>>> been very extensive, customs officers have never been very exacting >>>>>>> about the matter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in >>>>>>> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that >>>>>>> allowed the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large >>>>>>> shipyard related jobs were being done to them. The intention of this >>>>>>> rule was to allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to >>>>>>> worry about import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. >>>>>>> Legitimate large repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as >>>>>>> long as four years (48 months) if required, and permission for the >>>>>>> extension(s) is granted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just >>>>>>> having light seasonal maintenance done. Henry Fuller made a public >>>>>>> issue of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the >>>>>>> government agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so >>>>>>> enforcement increased as a result. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here: >>>>>>> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is another view: >>>>>>> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note >>>>>>> the wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014): >>>>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here: >>>>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The actual letter of the law here: >>>>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html >>>>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html >>>>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ken H. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help >>>>> with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - >>>>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>>> Thanks - Stu >>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with >>> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use >>> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - >>> Stu >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with >> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - >> Stu > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
