Keep them out of your way and if you are on the helm keep them out of your
crews way as much as possible. Cruising/club handicap racing boats should
not have them. Big mistake C&C design tem

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 1:42 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Hello all;
>
> My C&C 36 XL/kcb was delivered with the runners/check-stays run to the aft
> rail just about the location of the original headsail winches. They are
> rigged with a 4:1 purchase and are released/tightened depending on what
> tack we are on. Downwind they are unshackled and pulled forward.
>
> I removed the baby stay and its purchase/track to save wear and tear on
> the headsail during tacks so my boat is slightly modified from its factory
> settings. I do have and use a hydraulic backstay adjuster and always race
> with a roller furling headsail.
>
> I just had all the standing rigging replaced after 27 years of mostly PHRF
> racing in the lighter airs of the Pamlico Sound/Neuse River in NC. With a
> PHRF rating of 120 I am usually competitive with the fleet against similar
> sized boats sailed reasonably well--which I manage to do most of the time.
>
> My question for this group, especially those with runners/check-stays
> rigged, is two fold:
>
> 1. Given their aft location on the quarters, the angle they make with the
> mast is mostly aft--I'd guess about 75 degrees from perpendicular to the
> mast, or maybe 165 degrees off the bow. At that angle and purchase, they
> certainly have a minor effect on pulling the mast to weather upwind, which
> I understand is their main purpose (although they may also help prevent
> mast pumping in serious chop). Question #1 is do I really need them as
> currently set-up?
>
> 2. If the answer to question #1 is yes, my next question #2 is should I
> move them forward so they have a better angle keeping the mast to windward
> and perhaps increase their purchase? I know from these groups that some run
> their runners/check-stays to winches to put some serious tension on them at
> the expense of more trimming, etc.
>
> Before I do a sailing test with and without them, thoughts from the lists
> are welcome.
>
> BTW, my mast is a relatively bendy Off-Shore spar--hardly a telephone
> pole--so it can be bent with the hydraulic backstay adjuster.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie Nelson
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
> Water Phantom
>
>
>
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