Cleaned and shocked the tanks every year.  Its what we drank numerous times 
when Bermuda bound.  No ill effects from the water.

We now live aboard and drink tank water twice filtered.

Key is rotation.  Use it and fill it.

However took four water tests - 1) unfiltered, filtered once, filtered twice 
and bottled water.  The results were the same.



From: dwight veinot via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

Are you brave enough to drink water from your fresh water tanks or even cook 
food with it?  Filter or not it's good for washing dishes and showering. 
Quality potable in those tanks; if I was dying of thirst. Maybe. Take the 
filter out. Be careful of where you take on water and chlorinate

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 12:59 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I mostly solved the mystery of my fresh water pump and wanted to update the 
discussion.  I got another identical Jabsco pump from Defender to replace the 
new one that was not shutting off and I was able to test the new one without 
removing the previous new one.  It did exactly the same thing which made me 
convinced the problem was elsewhere.  The hint came when I realized that air 
was getting into the system because the water coming out of the tap had 
frequent air gaps in flow.  I knew the problem was in the inflow because the 
pressure that the pump generated was maintained in the outflow system for many 
days.  I did not think the problem was in the tank lines since they were not 
leaking water.  The manifold also seemed fine.  My suspicion then centered on 
the filter between the manifold and the pump.  I pulled that out of the line 
and the pump pressurized and shut off quickly.  I am still not sure where the 
filter housing was leaking air but there is no obvious seal between the housing 
and the base.  Unlike the pump, that filter design has changed radically in 
what came with the new pump, so I suspect I am not the first to have problems 
with it.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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I have had new pump pressure switch failure occur shortly after installation.

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

And not to beat a dead horse, but as I mentioned B4, I had no luck with the 
t;ypical pumps available, and once I went with the Johnson, all my problems 
went away. Maybe they have a better designed check valve.

Bill Coleman

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:07 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
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Good thoughts.  I can see in my tanks and there is not any significant amount 
of sludge.  I also have a strainer that was already in the line just before the 
pump.  The pump came with one, but I elected to leave the existing one in 
place.  I cleaned the filter and there was not much there.   Dave

David Knecht
Rear Commodore
Thames Yacht Club
New London, CT




On Sep 6, 2022, at 2:21 PM, Matthew via CnC-List 
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If you have that much sludge, you may want to consider an in-line strainer.  I 
have one between my bilgewater intake and my diaphragm bilge pump, and I know 
I've saved the pump from a lot of crud.  My strainer is simple and looks like 
the product at the link below, but as I recall it was made by a company with a 
marine presence (like Forespar or Surflow).  Very easy to install and clean 
periodically.

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Subject: Stus-List Re: Fresh water pump dead?

Maybe you have a lot of sludge in your tank, I often put a hose on the far end 
of my water system and run a couple tanks out into the slip to clean it up.

Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie PA

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 1:17 PM David Knecht via CnC-List 
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It looks like the pump version was not the problem.  I will confirm tomorrow, 
but according to Defender, I did indeed purchase the pressure limited version 
of the pump.  I don't think they even sell the non-pressure limited version.  
The response I got from Jabsco/Xylem customer support said to do this:

The problem with your pump is the Check Valve. What you would need to do is too 
clean it. Take the six screws out they would are Long then Short in size; the 
pump will come part in two pieces the motor and lower housing as one piece and 
the pump head; once you spread the two pieces apart the check valve will 
usually fall out by itself. The check valve looks like a triangle with suction 
cups in each corner on one side and the other side theirs a rubber diaphragm in 
the center; that are machine press in(Take a picture of the check valve "Both 
Sides"). Take the check valve and place it in a bucket of warm water wait a 
couple of minutes. While the check valve is soaking; take the head where the 
suction and the discharge hose hookup and rotate and look inside. You will see 
a circle in the center a 1/8" edge; take a wet towel and wipe off that edge 
(Front, Back and Top Edge). Take the Check Valve when it's submerged pick it up 
and slush it back and forth in the bucket of water for a couple of minutes 
(While Submerged). This should clear all the particles. Place the check valve 
back into the Head of the pump and put it back together. 90% of the time your 
pump will be back to normal.

Seems excessive for a brand new pump but I guess I will have to try it.
Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT

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