My C&C 34 similarly captured me head first in the lazarette during an oil fill.

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Had to be rescued from a similar position on my 27-III.

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I suspect most of us with IOR era boats have had similar experiences.



The transom on my 38 is a bit over 5 feet wide. I needed to adjust the steering 
cables on the quadrant, so I removed the one scupper hose in the way and went 
down in the lazarette with my trusty wrenches and schrunched head first, on my 
back towards the steering gear. I couldn't quite put a wrench on both ends of 
the steering cable, so I put my foot on a convenient surface in the lazarette 
and pushed myself the last few inches until I could reach just fine. Success! 
The wheel centered and the cables snug.



Then the problem materialized.



I couldn't back out. My hands were trapped above my head by the underside of 
the cockpit sole and the steering guide pulleys with nothing to push against. 
Nothing I could reach with my foot to pull against. And no one on the dock to 
hear me shout "Anyone there!?"



About the time I had decided that they would  discover my withered body when 
the smell became offensive to someone on an adjacent boat at the club, I decide 
to make another try at getting out. I finally managed to raise my back and 
wiggle my butt so I could "inchworm" myself down a quarter or half inch at a 
time until I could hook a toe on the edge of the fuel tank and move back until 
I could free my hands, reach the side of the lazarette, and pull out of the 
trap.



I'm basically convinced that a new boat should come with the option of either a 
midget with an engineering degree, or a very precocious 14-year old.



Rick Brass

Imzadi C&C 38 mk2

Washington, NC



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I can easily relate to that.



I was stuck, headfirst, in the lazarette on friend’s Hunter 34. The lazarette 
was deep and there was a “point of no return”. If you passed it, there was no 
way to crawl your way back, but the lazarette was too tight to fall in and 
reverse. Fortunately, the owner was not that far away and eventually heard my 
yelps for help.



I keep saying that we need to teach some very little kids (2-3 yo) to do 
maintenance on our boats. They have the right size for that.



Marek



1994 C270 Legato

Ottawa ON







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I still have nightmares of getting stuck back under the cockpit.

I once got stuck upside down head first, under the cutting board, under a panel 
below that where I was working on the isotherm refrigeration unit. I was 
calling for help, but no one was around. After about an hour and half, I 
finally extricated myself.



Bill Coleman

Former C&C 39



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I am running the propane hose for my new stove down the starboard side of the 
boat, which is requiring me to crawl back to the stern under/beside the aft 
cockpit. My memory of working back there was I just crawled in and back out. 
Turns out to not be that easy, I had to take the engine control cables and 
bilge pump hoses off their fittings and I still can just barely sort of do it. 
When I was a teenager I fit just fine. Did the boat shrink? Can I expand it? 
Did I “opposite of shrink”?



Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA





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