End for end using lazy sheets and guys when the wind gets up to 15 knots or above on my boat. That may vary depending upon the boat, especially the older IOR designs, they can be very squirrely downwind.
Rod From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 8:05 AM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> Subject: Stus-List Re: Kite jibing--end for end or dip pole? I favor end for end, too. As the boat gets bigger and wind pipes up perhaps sheets and guys on each clew will help. But the main point (and I’m coming into this chat late so I may have missed it), is it’s all on the helmsman. Just hold the boat downwind until the gybe is complete. Unless you have to go straight to a reach for tactical reasons, then just get the pole off quick and don’t worry about reattaching right away; just gybe and let the new tack rest on the headstay. Then worry about getting the pole on later. Andy Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Nov 12, 2023, at 22:33, Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: It's a UK sock. -- Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 6:36 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Is it a VF Shaw Chutescoop? Bill Coleman On Sun, Nov 12, 2023, 18:51 Dennis C. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: Always an interesting topic. True, conventional wisdom says end for end (EFE) up to 35 feet. Also agree EFE is faster. Don't disagree that dip pole (DP) gybing is safer. We do end for end gybes on Touche'. Our pole is 3.5 inch aluminum. Regardless of EFE or DP gybing, I think the most important concept of gybing is the philosophy or mentality of the crew. Whereas many crew tend to think a gybe is the chute coming across the boat, I prefer to visualize the boat turning under the chute. That is, the chute, and its aspect to the wind doesn't really change. The chute is moving down the course and the boat turns side to side under it. To me, it's a subtle but significant way to visualize gybing. The helmsperson really needs that visualization when gybing. On a side note, I spent 2 hours this morning patching holes in an asymmetrical chute, its snuffing sock and storage bag. It's a chute I got from a dock buddy for doing some work on his boat. It should fit Touche'. The chute was stored on top of his batteries. The holes were from battery acid. Next is fitting the snuffing sock with a new metal hoop. The old one is broken. It collapsed on the chute and grabbed it so it wouldn't go up or down. Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills. Make a contribution at: https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks for your help. Stu
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