Thanks Josh, I think I like your Poacher's Knot better than the Halyard Knot, it looks like it doesn't pinch the line as much at the shackle. And also fthe soft shackle, but the weight of a few ounces in a shackle in a 1,200# rig is the least of my worries - and to Rich's point, yes, the Halyard cover did shit the bed, and that probably will be what happens next. I guess I need to bite the bullet and buy a new coil of line, after shortening this halyard, now the clutch (Wedge) won't hold the sail up because it has narrowed too much! Going to try some Samson MLX3 this time.
Bill Coleman Erie PA On Mon, Aug 4, 2025 at 11:27 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < [email protected]> wrote: > I use a knot. The fat splice makes the last foot of hoist more difficult > when you are already fighting the entire weight of the sail. > > This is what I sent to our lister Oden who's rebuilding the 37R > > > > I do what I've seen called a double overhand on itself. The amount of > line required to make the knot is a fraction of that required for a > splice. When the knot gets chaffed I just cut it clean and start with a > fresh section of halyard. Eyesplices also fatten the line making them less > flexible and hard to pull through the mast sheeves (particularly the last > foot or so of the hoist). > > > There is a knot called a halyard knot but TBH I can't figure out why it is > more or less virtuous than the double overhand on itself. It feel like the > tail up near shackle is unnecessary and just takes more space from a full > hoist. It needs cut off too. I've never used it. > > https://www.animatedknots.com/poachers-knot > > On the topic of halyards I'll have to find and forward an article about > stretch. The halyards are the single lines on the boat which need to have > as little stretch a is affordable. For me the balance of stretch, > diameter, and cost was 3/8ths Yale Crystaline. Maybe 7/16ths. Crystaline > is/was solid color too so it allowed me to use a scheme for all halyards > being solid (no fleck). For the $$$ I have no need to pay for low stretch > anywhere else on the boat. Most of my other lines are quadrupled in a > purchase system anyway. > > All the best, > Josh > > >
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