On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:18 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/5/2010 3:01 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: >> hi, >> >> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 9:45 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> CoApp seeks to be one very specific way to do it. If it happens to work >>> for the >>> upstream project, wonderful :) If not, it's open source, and when it's >>> broke we >>> get to glue both pieces together. >> >> That's what I would like to avoid as much as I can. At least for two things: >> >> - naming convention (static vs dynamic .lib for example) >> - standard binary packages >> >> If it fails for these two, then right, CoApp will be just another >> project that brings nothing to upstream developers. And I really hope >> that won't be the case :) > > What is success? Naming conventions? Whatever we pick will be adopted by 10% > of the world, decried by 10%, and ignored by 80%.
Besides the classic rhetorical answer (which is always enjoyable), I disagree, especially on Windows. See below. >> Except indeed if the CoApp goal is to be a distribution-like system. >> But then I would not have much interest to participate. > > If the goal is to push out conventions which OSS developers are expected to > adhere to, the project participants here can expect high blood pressure and > burnout within 12 months of the effort. To create standards that developers can use and rely on is necessary. Every developer I was talking to were looking for such conventions for windows. That's the most important thing they miss on Window. It is not perfect on Unix/Linux but there is at least some well defined conventions that most of the projects have adopted. > If the goal is to offer conventions > and then package much of the open source out there to follow those conventions > and actually work out of the box for users and developers, the project's > participants should be very satisfied with their success 12 months after the > initial offering. Nice ideal, but I don't think the linux distributions model (as in debian, redhat, etc.) can apply well to the Windows world. However there are a lot that we can learn from it, packages, conventions for example. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~coapp-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
