What I understand his request to be is to simplify and/or better documenting 
bootstrapping the first Cobbler server; there are for example RPMs in EPEL that 
are required, so EPEL would need to be hard-coded into the "repo" line in that 
first kickstart. Plus I found some EPEL RPMs that are "optional" but required 
for Cobbler features that I need (e.g. tftpd.py).
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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[mailto:cobbler-boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Michael DeHaan
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:47 AM
To: cobbler mailing list
Subject: Re: [cobbler] Documentation for RHEL

Well… You're always going to have to read the configuration file… I'm not sure 
I understand what you're trying to accomplish in making it one size fits all.

Mostly we're talking about picking config settings and restarting the service.

Keep in mind there are some people with 20 machines here and others with tens 
of thousands -- the options are decidedly different in every case.

Once set up, yes, copying configuration files around is, I would think, totally 
normal.   But cobbler itself should not be fully automated in setting up 
itself, no… there are just too many variables.

I think Owen's issue is different -- namely that the release didn't have 
sufficient upgrade instructions.


On Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Mann, Owen wrote:

I think there's some value here; when I upgraded from a RHEL5 Cobbler 1.6 
machine to a RHEL6 Cobbler 2.0 machine, I had to do some jiggering since 
Cobbler 1.6 doesn't support RHEL6.



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[mailto:cobbler-boun...@lists.fedorahosted.org] On Behalf Of Gerhardus 
Geldenhuis
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [cobbler] Documentation for RHEL



Not quite,

Its about having a virgin environment with nothing on it apart from a link to 
the internet and starting to build a server. One size certainly does not fit 
all but having a vanilla flavoured version to use and learn on could be useful. 
I want to be able to get a cobbler server up and running and then subsequently 
my servers in a very quick time and I do not feel it is currently possible. But 
let me do some more head scratching and contribute a few updates to the docs 
and take it from there.



Regards

On 23 February 2012 16:33, Michael DeHaan 
<michael.deh...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.deh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Oh, this is about replication.



AKA: "yum install cobbler (or arrive there by kickstart)" … "configure XXX & 
start services" … "cobbler replicate".   Yes, there's a Wiki page for this -- 
not the ones I linked.



This is the one you want to add to:  
https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/wiki/Replication



I don't think we can replicate configuration file differences sanely (or should 
try), as certain things should need to change, and it's not a one size fits all 
thing … but you could include those in the kickstart.



You could probably use the cobbler configuration file support to ship the 
config files out too.

On Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis wrote:

Hi

I will add a few additions.



My personal aim was to get a cobbler server working as quickly as possible 
which I am sure would be a shared goal.



Problems I am experiencing so far:

* A number of config changes that needs to be performed... they are all easy 
but could perhaps be automated more... I might make a few rpm changes in git 
for consideration...

* I want servers build from the cobbler server to use the cobbler repos first 
time without having to configure it. The auto configuration of the repos does 
not work and I need to debug it.

* For some reason koan does not get installed which is likely to be related to 
the above point.



With a bootstrap kickstart I meant a kickstart that I can use when I build my 
cobbler server. I want to be able to pop in the CentOS or RHEL CD and type 
ks=http://github.com/cobbler/buildserver.ks



Regards

On 23 February 2012 15:36, Michael DeHaan 
<michael.deh...@gmail.com<mailto:michael.deh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

This is basically the step by step guide.



https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/wiki/Start%20Here



The main starter workflow for all new users should be this



https://github.com/cobbler/cobbler/wiki/Using%20Cobbler%20Import



Additions are welcome, reorg not so much.



Including a bootstrap kickstart shouldn't be needed -- this is what sample.ks 
is when you go down the import pathway.   As for modifying that, I would prefer 
to just point at the Anaconda docs, which is what we do, other than explaining 
snippets.



--Michael

On Thursday, February 23, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Gerhardus Geldenhuis wrote:

Hi

I have been going through the process of setting up a cobbler server from 
scratch recently... up until now I was relying on legacy config files that I 
kept copying over. Although the documentation on the wiki is useful there was 
no step by step guide. I also experienced one possible bug but will need to 
double check. My question is with regards to the re-org of the documentation 
mentioned a while ago does such a step by step guide fit anywhere or do you 
purposely not want one? I would be happy to write one and also provide a 
bootstrap kickstart that anyone can use to build the cobbler server to build 
the rest his/her servers.



Regards



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