Greetings All,

Thanks to Cole for his extensive commentary onhis meadowlark and sapsucker. 
David is quite right, in that migrant YBSapsuckers would be expected to peak in 
late October and November. However,Cole is quite right in that earlier birds 
are certainly known, with Augustrecords from e-cen Oregon (for instance).
 
Most 1st year RN Sapsuckers are stillmolting from juv to first winter plumage 
in October, especially this early. Tim Smart and I had ajuvenile RN Sapsucker 
at Crow Valley about 10 days ago that had very littleadult plumage on the head, 
and the underlying color of the head was ratherblonde, causing me to think YB 
Sapsucker at first; it also lacked a red-nape (bymid-October, all RN Saps 
should have red on nape, but this bird was seen on 1October). However, the back 
pattern was that of a RN Sapsucker, and otherfeatures pointed towards RN Sap. I 
called it a RN Sap, though theoretically, itcould’ve been a hybrid. 
 
The description of the Norma’s Grove bird soundslike that of a YB Sapsucker, 
however the lack of mention of nape color is worrisome,and would normally lead 
off the discussion in any YB vs RN Sapsucker IDdiscussion. The crown color is 
suggestive, but not definitive (as noted above).Though most RN Sapsuckers have 
nice white rows on their back, even 1stcycle birds in October, even some adults 
can have more messy back patterns. Fora discussion of these points (with many 
photos), see the Nov/Dec 2006 issue ofBirding. The Norma’s Grove bird sure 
sounds like a YB Sapsucker, but in myopinion the description is still not 
definitive. Of course, that is my opinion, which is notnecessarily correct 
(cf., my ID of the WB Nuthatch at Crow Valley that day).
 
My experience with Eastern Meadowlark inearly/mid-fall plumage is not fresh 
(extensive, but ancient). The marksmentioned seem suggestive, but not 
definitive. Indeed, I’ve been struck by therich rust tones on the dorsal 
plumage of many of the fresh Western MeadowlarksI’ve looked at this fall. 
Though flank color/pattern and overall darkness aresuggestive, the key detailed 
descriptions of wing-covert, uppertail covert, andtail pattern were not 
described. Unlike sapsuckers, I have not extensivelystudied fall meadowlarks, 
so can not comment further.


Steven Mlodinow
Longmont, CO

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