On Mar 3, 2008, at 2:05 PM, Ken Thomases wrote:

On Mar 3, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Daniel Child wrote:

On Mar 1, 2008, at 6:15 AM, Ken Thomases wrote:

Does your init method do anything else other than calling [super initWithWindowNibName:]? In particular, if it calls [self window], that forces the loading (and awakening) of the NIB in order to reconstitute the window.
My bad. I should have checked that, and assumed it simply passed the address. If [self window] loads things, is there any way to obtain the window's address without loading it?

That question is nonsensical. There is no window until it's loaded, therefore there is nothing to have the address of.

Sorry, I was confused by the terminology. To me "load" sounded like "unfreeze the nib file and show the window", though I now see that NSNib docs indicate that "load" means place into memory without unarchiving. (To unarchive, you then instantiate.) I guess I was trying to say "load the window into window memory without showing the window." Surely there must be a way to do that....?

Thanks for the correction.
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