Alastair Houghton wrote:
On 2 Apr 2008, at 17:19, John Stiles wrote:

I take it all back; in 2007 there was an MD5 attack discovered which actually allows for completely different binaries that sign the same. Check Wikipedia for the details, but basically MD5 is totally broken now. Wow, times change!!

Actually I don't think you should take it back; it looks to me like the problem that has been solved (that of finding two files with the same prefix that have the same MD5 sum) is not a useful exploit in most cases.

In order for it to be a real vulnerability, you would need an algorithm that, as you say, allows someone to take an arbitrary file and add some bytes that are determined by the algorithm in order to match a given hash. I don't believe, from what I've read, that that particular problem has been solved.

The vulnerability that we have currently would only allow the original creator of a file to generate another file with the same checksum, and only under certain preconditions, so I contend that, as you originally stated, MD5 is not fully broken (and not even usefully broken in many respects).

Well, you're right, but I still wouldn't want to use it for anything where security was a real concern; I'd be worried that the next attack wouldn't be so forgiving.
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