> On 14 Jul 2017, at 14:40, Steve Christensen <puns...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 14, 2017, at 3:50 AM, Jeremy Hughes <moon.rab...@virginmedia.com> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m still not entirely clear on when autorelease pools are used in Swift. 
>> There is a WWDC video which says that they’re used in code that interfaces 
>> with Objective-C, but Greg Parker’s comments in this thread indicate that 
>> autorelease is also used behind the scenes in native Swift code - except 
>> that in many cases the compiler is able to optimise it out of existence. 
>> Apple’s Swift book doesn’t mention autorelease.
> 
> I think the hazard here is that you are trying to build a mental model of 
> when to expect autorelease pools (or autorelease behavior in general) and 
> when not to. Worse, that you might design your code to fit those expectations.

Apple’s documentation states that there are times that you do want to consider 
the memory effects of autorelease pools (and suggests adding your own pools to 
prevent large accumulations of dead objects during loops) - so knowing when 
they are used isn’t irrelevant.

Also, ARC is described as “deterministic” - which I’m possibly misinterpreting 
as meaning "behaves in a predictable way".

Jeremy

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