> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:17 PM, じょいすじょん <dangerwillrobinsondan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 9:09, Jens Alfke <j...@mooseyard.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:02 PM, David Hoerl <dho...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> But then I though - heck, if Foo has NSObject as its super class, gee, 
>>> maybe -init isn't really need. I mean, if all of Foo's ivars and properties 
>>> are initialized, its a shortcut, right.
>> 
>> -[NSObject init] happens to be a no-op empty method. So if a direct subclass 
>> of NSObject has no -init method of its own, you could get by with just 
>> calling +alloc. However, I think this would be a really bad idea. If at some 
>> point you needed to add an -init method to class Foo, like to initialize an 
>> ivar, you’d have to go and fix all this code that wasn’t calling -init, or 
>> else you’d suddenly have a number of bugs in your code. Even worse, if 
>> someone else added the -init method and didn’t know about this quirk of how 
>> callers initialized Foo, they might have  no idea why their method didn’t 
>> get called. Yuck.
>> 
>> —Jens
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
> It definitely should never pass in a code review for exactly these reasons 
> and should be fixed by either adding the init call or changing the alloc call 
> to a new call (since new is a synonym for alloc init).
> If you saw it pre-existing in code that was being checked in, require it to 
> be fixed. Refusal to type a few characters is absolutely a shortcut to 
> trouble later (Y2K).
> _______________________________________________
> 

Is the use of +new discouraged also?

-Carl


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