thanks jerry,

if that's the only way i'll have to look into it.  one question though, is 
there anything i could have done that i can no longer read using addSuiteNamed 
along with arrayForKey like i mentioned in my original post?  just a couple of 
hours ago it was working for me over and over again.  but after many attempts 
of trying to write to the file now i can no longer even get the initial read.  
i have recreated the plist again and again and these methods will no longer 
give me the starting array i'm looking for.  just running a defaults shell 
script will give the info no problem and i can see myself the key and info is 
there.  i figured if i corrupted my plist a new one would fix it but no go.  
anything come to mind?  thanks again i appreciate it,

rick





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From: Jerry Krinock <je...@ieee.org>
To: cocoa dev <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 9:33:33 PM
Subject: Re: nsuserdefaults woes

I may be wrong, because I'm in a hurry here, but I believe ethat -addSuiteNamed 
only works for reading preferences.  If you want to write preferences to 
another app you've got to use the CFPreferences API (unfortunately).

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