Hi Ron, 

Thanks for that... I should have thought to check out how Apple did it 
themselves.  I was thinking a status message would be ok, but wasn't sure about 
the progress bar, but then it could all be handled in a text label anyway... 
"Downloading update... 10% complete".

Gant

On 17/01/2010, at 6:31 PM, Ron Fleckner wrote:

> 
> On 17/01/2010, at 4:06 PM, Grant Christensen wrote:
> 
>> Hi, apologies for having a wrong topic, replied instead of created a new 
>> message.
>> 
>> On 16/01/2010, at 11:25 PM, Grant Christensen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Somewhat new to cocoa (Mac even) development, and I have a UI  layout 
>>> question that I am hoping to get some opinions on.
>>> 
>>> I have a single window application that contains both a toolbar and a 
>>> bottom bar.  The application periodically goes off and reads some data from 
>>> a remote server.  This is a process that may take up to five seconds, and I 
>>> don't want to make the user pause while it is occuring, so don't want to 
>>> pop up a sheet with a status or similar.
>>> 
>>> My first thought was to put a label in the bottom bar saying something 
>>> like: retrieving from server xxx, and also have a progress indicator.  
>>> However the apple UI guidelines state not to use any controls in the bottom 
>>> bar.
>>> 
>>> Can you think of any other Mac standard ways to show progress in a non 
>>> obtrusive mannor?  Just the status label alone may not be sufficient as 
>>> there would be no way to see if the process has stalled.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for any suggestions
>>> 
>>> Grant Christensen
> 
> Hi Grant,
> 
> I don't think there'd be any problem putting a message and a progress bar in 
> the bottom bar.  They aren't controls, they're just items which tell the user 
> the state of your app's progress.  In fact, both Xcode and Safari do exactly 
> this.  In Safari the bottom bar is called a status bar; fairly self 
> explanatory.
> 
> Ron


---
Grant Christensen




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