I should also mention that the alternative on FreeNode for the iPhone development instead of #iphonedev is #iphone. My recommendation is to go there and to #macosxdev instead of #macdev if you want actual questions answered.
I'm saying this from experience. :) GC On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Gregory Casamento <greg_casame...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Patrick, > > There are alternative channels on FreeNode to discuss Mac/iPhone > development. You might give #macosxdev a shot since it seems to have > developers in it who know what they're doing and are relatively nice. > > GC > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Patrick M. Rutkowski > <rutsk...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Sorry, this is all just really frustrating, and I guess I was running >> under the false assumption that #macdev/#iphone and the mailing lists >> are the same user community :-/ >> >> My apologies for the language. Your right, I shouldn't have posted >> this to the list at all. >> >> -Patrick >> >> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Barry Skidmore <a...@me.com> wrote: >>> I'd ban you just for your language personally. The run on sentences and >>> half thought out bad logic aside. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On May 2, 2010, at 7:30 PM, "Patrick M. Rutkowski" <rutsk...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I just got kick/banned from #macdev and #iphondev. I was asking an >>>> exceptionally complicated NSStream question in #iphonedev, and though >>>> I got a lot of pseudo-answers, nobody really even understood the >>>> question to begin with; I hand't even gotten far enough in physically >>>> typing out the text explaining the problem, so they couldn't possibly >>>> have gotten the point. >>>> >>>> After enough trying there, I went to #macdev instead, looking for >>>> alternative thoughts. Fortunately, someone there was finally able to >>>> understand the question, but only after dozens and dozen of lines of >>>> IRCing in a PM. He gave some pointers, and now it's all worked out. >>>> >>>> However, in the mean time, another user in #macdev started bitching at >>>> me about reposting the question when I already supposedly got "loads >>>> of answers" in #iphonedev (which I most definitely did not). >>>> >>>> I say "bitching" because he wasn't just politely reminding me that >>>> re-posting question is frowned up. His words were of a condensing >>>> sort, and he was _bitching_ about it. So, I said "fuck you, /ignore", >>>> and put him on "/ignore" Immediately after that, the admin RTFM_FTW >>>> banned me, and he's not willing to lift it. >>>> >>>> I get banned from #iphonedev and #macdev on a very regular basis. >>>> Don't quote me on the numbers, but I think it's something like once >>>> per month, sometimes maybe more. Every time it's by this abusive admin >>>> RTFM_FTW. I've had open disputes with him in the past. Eventually I >>>> politely told him that I didn't think we should interact anymore, and >>>> then put him on a permanent "/ignore" in my IRC client. But the bans >>>> keep coming anyway :-/ >>>> >>>> I feel that I'm being discriminated against. The bans keep coming from >>>> RTFM_FTW, and from nobody else. >>>> >>>> I wish I could put some sort of injunction on RTFM_FTW banning me, >>>> because I'm certain no other admins would. >>>> >>>> I'm not really sure what to do here. I'm really missing >>>> #macdev/#iphonedev right now :-( >>>> >>>> -Patrick >>>> >>>> P.S >>>> If you're on here RTFM_FTW, fuck you. Just leave me the fuck alone >>>> already. I don't want to talk to you, and you don't want to talk to >>>> me; we don't like each other, and that's fine. But stop fucking >>>> banning me already, it's an abuse of your position. Feel free to ask >>>> another op to ban me, and if that other op feel that it's fit, then >>>> I'll be fine with a ban from _them_. But I doubt that's likely to ever >>>> happen, because 90% of your reason for banning me is due to the >>>> lasting dislike of me that you have from that time I talked back to >>>> you earlier this year in #macdev, so just quit it already, please! >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >>>> >>>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >>>> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >>>> >>>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>>> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/atri%40me.com >>>> >>>> This email sent to a...@me.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/greg_casamento%40yahoo.com >> >> This email sent to greg_casame...@yahoo.com >> > > > > -- > Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa > (240)274-9630 (Cell) > -- Gregory Casamento - GNUstep Lead/Principal Consultant, OLC, Inc. yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. 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