NB:

1. Standard ordering for most languages is capitals before lowercase.
2. Some languages have lowercase first.
3. -localizedStandardCompare: will take care of this for you.

In general, it’s better to leave decisions like this to the system.

Sorts of lists to be shown to end-users should never be case- or 
diacritic-insensitive, as correct sorting in many languages depends on case- 
and diacritic-sensitivity. Note that for a localized sort, being case-sensitive 
does *not* mean you’ll get:

ABCDabcd

That’s code-point order, which is not at all the same thing. What 
case-sensitive means for a localized sort is that you’ll get a definite 
ordering (e.g., capitals before lower-case, all else being equal). The way 
Unicode sorting works is:

1. First, sort on the value of the letter
2. Then, sort on diacritics
3. Then, sort on case

Each succeeding level is only done if the preceding levels compare equal *for 
the entire string*.

See:

http://userguide.icu-project.org/collation
http://userguide.icu-project.org/collation/concepts

Deborah Goldsmith
Apple, Inc.

On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Keary Suska wrote:

> On Jul 20, 2010, at 11:39 AM, Roland King wrote:
> 
>> I thought perhaps that comparing the two strings case insensitively, 
>> returning that compare if they are not equal, but if they are equal, 
>> comparing them case sensitively and returning the inverse of that (remember 
>> I want a to beat A) would do what I want but I've failed to convince myself 
>> that actually works. 
> 
> This approach will not provide overall lower-before-capital sorting, so I 
> expect it won't work. Consider the following:
> 
> aClass
> AAClass
> 
> Will sort, using the method you describe, to 
> 
> AAClass
> aClass
> 
> Because A comes before C and they are unequal (so a is never compared to A). 
> Using a custom selector/function is probably the only way to go, and I can't 
> think of any built-in method that will give the collation results you are 
> looking for. I don't think you can escape a character-by-character comparison.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Keary Suska
> Esoteritech, Inc.
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