On May 29, 2011, at 12:57, Ken Thomases wrote: > But it's important to recognize that there are good arguments on both sides > and the design decision involved a tradeoff. In any case, it doesn't seem to > me that that design decision necessarily implies that calling super with a > nil self should also be safe. The two can be considered separately. In this > case, it was actually good that it crashed, since Jerry's code had a bug and > it was found earlier than it might otherwise have been. Put another way, > what nice patterns would be enabled if it were safe to message super when > self is nil? In the absence of any, the argument tilts heavily in favor of > disallowing it.
I don't disagree with this rationale -- it may be a good idea. But there's a question of what's in the API (or runtime documentation in this case) contract. What I read here: developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ObjectiveC/Chapters/ocObjectsClasses.html is this: > Sending Messages to nil > > In Objective-C, it is valid to send a message to nil—it simply has no effect > at runtime. That's pretty unequivocal. The significance of calling it a bug is that someone might actually file a bug report, which might result in Apple either allowing nil in the super case or changing the documentation to match the actual behavior. I don't care which is the outcome, but I think one of those things should happen. _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com