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>   1. Creating a TCP server? (Rick Mann)
>   2. Re: Creating a TCP server? (Eric Gorr)
>   3. Re: App won't get to my code in Lion (Greg Parker)
>   4. Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>      flagsChanged? (Patrick Robertson)
>   5. Re: Creating a TCP server? (Bing Li)
>   6. Re: Creating a TCP server? (Rick Mann)
>   7. Re: Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>      flagsChanged? (Quincey Morris)
>   8. Re: Creating a TCP server? (davel...@mac.com)
>   9. Re: App won't get to my code in Lion (Charles Srstka)
>  10. Re: Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>      flagsChanged? (Kyle Sluder)
>  11. Re: Creating a TCP server? (Tito Ciuro)
>  12. Re: Creating a TCP server? (Eric Gorr)
>  13. Re: Dialog Command Keys (Gregory Weston)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:17:10 -0700
> From: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>
> Subject: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Cocoa Developer <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <07b5303b-f9f7-4424-9047-9e11f0701...@latencyzero.com>
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> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can 
> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I want 
> to advertise this using Bonjour.
> 
> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my best 
> bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at NSSocket 
> and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
> 
> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:23:21 -0400
> From: Eric Gorr <mail...@ericgorr.net>
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>
> Cc: Cocoa Developer <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <9d1d9f0c-5593-4277-b4c8-3fec85db6...@ericgorr.net>
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> 
> I would suggest checking out the SSD sample project from WWDC 2010. There are 
> a couple of problems in the source which are covered in this thread:
> 
> http://lists.apple.com/archives/Macnetworkprog/2011/Jul/msg00005.html
> 
> But the basics of what you want to do I believe are there...
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can 
>> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I 
>> want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>> 
>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my 
>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at 
>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>> 
>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name? 
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Rick
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 12:48:56 -0700
> From: Greg Parker <gpar...@apple.com>
> Subject: Re: App won't get to my code in Lion
> To: John Nairn <j...@geditcom.com>
> Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
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> On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:34 AM, John Nairn wrote:
>> I was trying to get away with XCode 3.25 on Lion to make a quick fix to my 
>> code. I have now installed Xcode 4.1. So far I am getting the same error 
>> message. I had this once before in a different application and the solution 
>> then was to create a completely new project and manually add all files back 
>> in. I will try that soon, but this is a big project and that is not an easy 
>> task. I was hoping the issue was similar.
>> 
>> Are the LC_VERSION_MIN_MACOSX and LC_FUNCTION_STARTS translations of 0x24 
>> and 0x26. I had been trying to target 10.5 and deploy to 10.4. That could 
>> not find the SDK in Xcode 4.1. I switched target to 10.6 (which builds, but 
>> lots of warnings) and left deploy at 10.4. I will try changing some more 
>> (but I am away from my development Mac until tonight)
> 
> "unable to read unknown load command" is reported by the debugger. The Xcode 
> 3.x debugger is unaware of Lion's new load commands.
> 
> Those messages should be harmless. The debugger should be able to run and 
> debug your app successfully even without understanding those load commands.
> 
> You need to figure out where the app is stuck. Run it, click Pause, and look 
> at the backtraces of all threads.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Greg Parker     gpar...@apple.com      Runtime Wrangler
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:50:03 +0100
> From: Patrick Robertson <robertson.patr...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>       flagsChanged?
> To: Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
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> Hi all,
> 
> I'm wanting to toggle an object between its default and 'alternate' state
> (the object is made up of an image and some text) when the user hits the
> command (③) key. An obvious example is in Xcode 3.2 where if you press â‘¥ 
> the
> 'Build and Run' icon and text changes to 'Build and Debug' (or vice versa,
> depending on your breakpoints)
> 
> The object is in a custom view which is a sub (sub) class of NSControl â∫‚
> NSView etc. etc.
> 
> I assumed I'd be able to use
> 
> - (void)flagsChanged:(NSEvent *)theEvent {
> 
> if ([theEvent modifierFlags] &NSCommandKeyMask) {
> 
> // change the image
> 
> }
> 
> // when keys are lifted so there are no modifiers
> 
> if ([theEvent modifierFlags] & **NSNoKeys**) {
> 
> // set the image back to the original
> 
> }
> 
> }
> 
> 
> but have come across a few problems.
> 
> First, you can see from the code that I can't seem to find a mask for when
> 'no' modifier keys are pressed. This method does get called for key downs
> and key ups. It seems 'no keys' corresponds to 0x100, but is there no
> constant I can use?
> 
> Secondly, this method seems to get called when other key combos are pressed
> (e.g. ③S or ③Q). This means the object/image will flick back/forward, 
> which
> isn't entirely desirable.
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 04:00:30 +0800
> From: Bing Li <lbl...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>
> Cc: Cocoa Developer <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi, Rick,
> 
> If you are familiar with BSD socket, you can program with it to create a TCP
> server. I have done that successfully.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bing
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can
>> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I
>> want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>> 
>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my
>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at
>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>> 
>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> --
>> Rick
>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:31:27 -0700
> From: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Eric Gorr <mail...@ericgorr.net>
> Cc: Cocoa Developer <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <f7603648-28e5-4a14-93b6-ff783f373...@latencyzero.com>
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> 
> Thanks, I saw those messages going by. I'll take a look.
> 
> -- 
> Rick
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:23 , Eric Gorr wrote:
> 
>> I would suggest checking out the SSD sample project from WWDC 2010. There 
>> are a couple of problems in the source which are covered in this thread:
>> 
>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/Macnetworkprog/2011/Jul/msg00005.html
>> 
>> But the basics of what you want to do I believe are there...
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can 
>>> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I 
>>> want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>>> 
>>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my 
>>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at 
>>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>>> 
>>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name? 
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Rick
>>> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:32:06 -0700
> From: Quincey Morris <quinceymor...@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>       flagsChanged?
> To: Patrick Robertson <robertson.patr...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
> Message-ID: <8ba9c67b-230c-46fd-87f3-60022a97e...@earthlink.net>
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> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:50, Patrick Robertson wrote:
> 
>> First, you can see from the code that I can't seem to find a mask for when
>> 'no' modifier keys are pressed. This method does get called for key downs
>> and key ups. It seems 'no keys' corresponds to 0x100, but is there no
>> constant I can use?
> 
> Yes, use the constant 0. Or how about "else"?
> 
>       if ([theEvent modifierFlags] & NSCommandKeyMask)
>               ...
>       else //  use this ...
>               ...
> 
>       if (([theEvent modifierFlags] & NSCommandKeyMask) == 0) // ... or this 
> ...
>               ...
> 
>       if (!([theEvent modifierFlags] & NSCommandKeyMask)) // ... or this
>               ...
> 
> I'll also point out that you don't want "'no' modifier keys", you want no 
> *Command* modifier key. Or do you really mean "'no' modifier keys"?
> 
>> Secondly, this method seems to get called when other key combos are pressed
>> (e.g. ③S or ③Q). This means the object/image will flick back/forward, 
>> which
>> isn't entirely desirable.
> 
> Well, of course. You're choosing to use a *modifier* key, which gets pressed 
> first (and sometimes first by quite a long time), and that modifier is 
> already used for other things too. That means it's not highly desirable to 
> use the Command key for modes that are slow to switch or are extremely 
> visible to the user.
> 
> If must use Command, you could certainly try delaying the switch in state, 
> but that of course makes it seem less responsive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:38:08 -0400
> From: davel...@mac.com
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>,        Cocoa Developer
>       <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <064d9a7b-b392-4eb7-a3fb-b9772579d...@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> 
> Here's some sample code (I'm not the author)
> 
> https://bitbucket.org/snej/mynetwork/overview
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Bing Li wrote:
> 
>> Hi, Rick,
>> 
>> If you are familiar with BSD socket, you can program with it to create a TCP
>> server. I have done that successfully.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Bing
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can
>>> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I
>>> want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>>> 
>>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my
>>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at
>>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>>> 
>>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Rick
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:03:01 -0500
> From: Charles Srstka <cocoa...@charlessoft.com>
> Subject: Re: App won't get to my code in Lion
> To: John Nairn <j...@geditcom.com>
> Cc: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
> Message-ID: <19801b51-9f29-4430-b9ff-64e88105d...@charlessoft.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:19 AM, John Nairn wrote:
> 
>> My app won't start at all in Lion. I always thought the first code will be in
>> 
>> - (void)applicationWillFinishLaunching:(NSNotification *)aNotification
>> 
>> but that code is never reached. So I am a loss of how to fix it.
>> 
>> Many of my users claim they can get it running by deleting the folder 
>> ~/Library/Icons but other users claim that does not help?
> 
> This may be a silly question, but are you sure that your object is set as 
> NSApplication‚s delegate in the nib file?
> 
> Charles
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:11:35 -0700
> From: Kyle Sluder <kyle.slu...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Toggle an object (image) when Command key is pressed:
>       flagsChanged?
> To: Patrick Robertson <robertson.patr...@gmail.com>
> Cc: Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
> Message-ID:
>       <CANEs-czFzQH+vkRYH489hZW+DJDg9xOKtqK8LqPx=9mzvpb...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Patrick Robertson
> <robertson.patr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> First, you can see from the code that I can't seem to find a mask for when
>> 'no' modifier keys are pressed. This method does get called for key downs
>> and key ups. It seems 'no keys' corresponds to 0x100, but is there no
>> constant I can use?
> 
> Did you remember to AND the modifierFlags with
> NSDeviceIndependentModifierFlagsMask?
> 
>> 
>> Secondly, this method seems to get called when other key combos are pressed
>> (e.g. ③S or ③Q). This means the object/image will flick back/forward, 
>> which
>> isn't entirely desirable.
> 
> In either 10.5 or 10.6, Apple changed the implementation of NSToolbar
> to avoid this flickering by delaying for a fraction of a second before
> changing its image in response to a -flagsChanged: event. Check the
> AppKit release notes for more info.
> 
> --Kyle Sluder
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 18:14:52 -0300
> From: Tito Ciuro <tci...@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: davel...@mac.com
> Cc: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>,        Cocoa Developer
>       <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <93139797-648c-46cc-93f1-b2ca603a8...@mac.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> 
> Hello,
> 
> More options:
> 
> A simple, extensible HTTP server in Cocoa
> http://cocoawithlove.com/2009/07/simple-extensible-http-server-in-cocoa.html
> 
> How to Write a Cocoa Web Server
> http://macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2006/11/14/how-to-write-a-cocoa-web-server.html
> 
> A Simple HTTP Server
> http://culturedcode.com/cocoa/
> 
> -- Tito
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 5:38 PM, davel...@mac.com wrote:
> 
>> Here's some sample code (I'm not the author)
>> 
>> https://bitbucket.org/snej/mynetwork/overview
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Bing Li wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, Rick,
>>> 
>>> If you are familiar with BSD socket, you can program with it to create a TCP
>>> server. I have done that successfully.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bing
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 3:17 AM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients can
>>>> connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, I
>>>> want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>>>> 
>>>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my
>>>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at
>>>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>>>> 
>>>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Rick
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:37:54 -0400
> From: Eric Gorr <mail...@ericgorr.net>
> Subject: Re: Creating a TCP server?
> To: Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com>
> Cc: Cocoa Developer <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
> Message-ID: <37113290-6495-443e-bfe5-7885f6b9b...@ericgorr.net>
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> What, I think distinguishes the SSD example from others is that it uses the 
> two most modern methods to get the job done - launchd and GCD.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, I saw those messages going by. I'll take a look.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 12:23 , Eric Gorr wrote:
>> 
>>> I would suggest checking out the SSD sample project from WWDC 2010. There 
>>> are a couple of problems in the source which are covered in this thread:
>>> 
>>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/Macnetworkprog/2011/Jul/msg00005.html
>>> 
>>> But the basics of what you want to do I believe are there...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 26, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi. I need to build a little serial port-to-TCP server (so that clients 
>>>> can connect to my Mac to interact with a serial port). Among other things, 
>>>> I want to advertise this using Bonjour.
>>>> 
>>>> How do I create a TCP server in Cocoa? It seems like CF networking is my 
>>>> best bet, but I thought TCP should be easy via Cocoa. I briefly looked at 
>>>> NSSocket and NSStream, but they're not really what I want, I think.
>>>> 
>>>> And to verify: is NSNetServices what I need to publish the Bonjour name? 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> 
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>>> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:38:32 -0400
> From: Gregory Weston <gwes...@mac.com>
> Subject: Re: Dialog Command Keys
> To: cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com
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> Bill Appleton wrote:
> 
>> Based on my app, the dialog boxes have to be created dynamically, so i can't
>> use Interface Builder, so they are assembled out of cocoa controls as
>> needed.
>> 
>> My dialogs beep when i control-x to cut some selected text
>> 
>> What is the simple way for my dialog window to pass these command keys
>> events down to the text views?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance
> 
> Not to be impertinent but through this thread I'm wondering if the OP is 
> putting himself through this pain unnecessarily. There *are* certainly 
> legitimate reasons to be building parts of your UI at runtime but in my 
> experience it's vanishingly rare, especially for the entire application. Is 
> this one of those scenarios where the most beneficial answer to "How do I do 
> X" is "Don't?"
> 
> So to Bill: What's the situation for your app that you've decided requires 
> you to build everything at runtime? *Why* can't you use IB?
> 
> Greg
> 
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