On Oct 20, 2011, at 15:37 , Jerry Krinock wrote:

> When I need to know whether or not a managed object is deleted, often I fall 
> into the trap of trying -[NSManagedObject isDeleted], forgetting that its 
> documentation states …
> 
>  "… It may return NO at other times, particularly after the object has been 
> deleted. …"
> 
> In other words, they should have named that method -isDeletedForSure, to 
> indicate that the NO result is not reliable.
> 
> Anyhow, today I fixed a problem by using this instead …
> 
>   BOOL isDeleted ;
>   isDeleted = [object isDeleted] || ([object managedObjectContext] == nil) ;
> 
> I'm not sure if it will work in all situations.  I suppose that sending the 
> magical -processPendingChanges would be another workaround.

FWIW, I also wonder if this ("Is it deleted?") is the right question to ask. As 
you've documented here, the technical question is largely a housekeeping one -- 
about how the object is represented in terms of the in-memory object graph vs 
the persistent store, faulting, etc.

Functionally, isn't the question likely to be whether the object is … I dunno … 
*reachable* any more? From that point of view, the criterion may well be 
whether a key relationship of the object is null or not.

IOW, it's a question of the object's role, not its representation, and the Core 
Data representation isn't conclusive as to the role.

It's just a thought. You seem to have been chasing these representation-related 
deletion issues for months now, or longer.


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