On 22 Dec 2011, at 2:05 PM, Kyle Sluder wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Fritz Anderson > <fri...@manoverboard.org> wrote: >> The document's NIB (no, I don't put the document in the NIB, and I'm using >> the window controller that comes with the document) contains an >> NSObjectController and an NSArrayController at the top level. Per "Patterns >> for Managing Outlets Become Consistent Across Platforms" in the >> "Transitioning to ARC Release Notes," the IBOutlet properties for those >> controllers were declared strong. > > This seems to conflict with the Resource Programming Guide, which > recommends that your IBOutlets be declared weak (aka 'assign') on Mac > OS X: > http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/LoadingResources/CocoaNibs/CocoaNibs.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/10000051i-CH4-SW26
I don't take your point. The "_become_ consistent" part of the title implies that the new recommendation, that outlets to top-level objects be strong, is _new_. On the page you refer to, I see: "You typically need strong references to top-level objects to ensure that they are not deallocated…. From a practical perspective, in iOS and OS X outlets should be defined as declared properties. Outlets should generally be weak, _except for those from File’s Owner to top-level objects in a nib file … which should be strong_." Emphasis added. The example given (twice) is: @property (strong) IBOutlet MyOtherClass *topLevelObject; "Outlets should be changed to strong when the outlet should be considered to own the referenced object: • As indicated previously, this often the case with File’s Owner—top level objects in a nib file are frequently considered to be owned by the File’s Owner." However, I do see the section on "_Legacy_ Patterns," which does recommend assign on Mac OS X, "_prior to ARC_." I am using ARC. On the other hand, I'm using it on a 10.6 target. ON STILL THE OTHER HAND, there is the section "Top-level Objects in OS X May Need Special Handling," which prescribes a horrific little ARC dance (HLAD, I'm trying to popularize it) you have to do in order to CFRelease top-level objects, because top-level objects come in with ownership +1. (But, but, but… I thought Mac OS NIB loading had been made consistent with iOS, like the ARC release note said?) The more I go through of this, the more confused I become — and a year ago, I was pretty confident I knew this stuff. None of this answers my question, which apparently I should have made clearer: ==== In a 10.6-targeted application (possibly running on 10.7), using ARC, do top-level objects follow the "ARC rule" (as in the release notes), or the "prior to ARC" rule (even though the code uses ARC)? ==== Maybe I have to have another look at that horrific little ARC dance. If that's necessary, then I was wrong to declare the object-controller outlets u_u, they should be strong, and I should then do the HLAD. — F _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com