>> As Jens mentioned, that doesn't make any sense. What good is a localized >> comparison method if not for sorting a list for display? I suppose you could >> be implying that Cocoa's sorting methods aren't optimized to assume >> comparisons are transitive (or special cases problematic >> strings/comparisons), but that seems quite unlikely. > > You're both sliding right over the specifics of what I said:
> > 1. You cannot reasonably use 'localizedCaseInsensitiveCompare:' *alone* to > sort and later insert strings into a list of strings that is "case > insensitive" in the sense you originally seemed to mean. I'm sliding over the details of what you said because they're irrelevant for my purposes. All I need is a consistent/transitive comparison, which I think is a reasonable expectation. Again, jumping straight to the point: > The best you can do with NSString *only* is to assume that words like "laßt" > are just mis-spelled English words (if your locale is us_EN). You can't then > expect them to sort like they would in their actual language, though of > course you can expect transitivity in the comparison methods. That's all I expect. I don't care where "laßt" is placed in the sort order for "en_US" (or any other locale), just that it has a single consistent location (so long as the same locale is always used for all comparisons). > 3. You *did* demonstrate (and 2 other people confirmed) a case-insensitive > transitivity failure for us_EN in 10.6.8. Markus found no transitivity > failure for de_AT; I found no transitivity failure for us_EN in 10.7.3, > though you reported you did; That's correct- I reproduced that the comparison is not transitive for some strings with an eszett character on 10.6.8 and 10.7.3 with the "en_US" locale. I have since noticed that the project's base and deployment SDK are set to 10.6, so perhaps the bug only manifests because the frameworks are providing compatibility. > Maybe give 'localizedStandardCompare:' a try? Thank you for the idea, but that won't be suitable for me because I need to be able to specify the locale. Well, I'll try bumping the base SDK to 10.7. If I can still reproduce the issue after that, I'll file a radar. ~Martin _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com