> On Oct 20, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Ken Thomases <k...@codeweavers.com> wrote:

> 
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Charles Srstka wrote:
>> 
>> -menuNeedsUpdate: has the same problem that -validateMenuItem: has. It 
>> doesn't get called until the menu is about to be actually drawn, which 
>> doesn't happen until the user clicks on your menu.
> 
> This isn't correct.  Menus are updated/validated when resolving keyboard 
> shortcuts.  What makes you think otherwise?  Lots of things wouldn't work if 
> that weren't so.

Well, the docs are surprisingly quite explicit:

“Invoked when a menu is about to be displayed at the start of a tracking 
session so the delegate can modify the menu.”

But, as you state, I know that menus update themselves for key equivalent 
processing. I’m not near my Mac, so I can’t verify that -menuNeedsUpdate: is 
called in that scenario, or only the lazy-population methods.

--Kyle Sluder

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