Rick,
There's no doubt the Phases concept is essential to Schematron's success and
a definite advantage over XSD and Relax which, as you said, require
"proprietory handwaving" when it comes to partial document validation.
Have you been following the discussion with Kohsuke on a possible JARV
integration?
If you had a chance to see the JARV API, my source code and probably
Torsten's API, maybe you can elaborate on a possible higher level validation
API which will encompass multiple schemas.
Regards,
Ivelin
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From: "Rick Jelliffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Schematron-love-in] Re: [Announcement] Fast Schematron
Validation Here !
From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I mean browser, client. Different browsers (PC, PDA, cell-phone, etc.) may
> support different human interfaces and therefore the document may be split
> into different pieces which are gathered and put together at the end.
> The validation of the pieces at each stage is device/client dependent.
> Is the question more clear?
Yes, certainly you could use Schematron <phase>s to validate
device-dependent constraints.
<Phase>s reconstruct the conditional section features of XML DTDs,
("INCLUDE/IGNORE marked sections") which allow you to customize
a DTD to get variants. XML Schemas and RELAX do not have any equivalent.
The kinds of uses I imagine for phases include
* versions (e.g. parallel variants)
* pipe-line processing (e.g. serial variants)
* variant processing (e.g. device-dependencies and fan-outs)
* partial processing (e.g. documents under construction)
* state-dependent processing (e.g. where the results of one
phase are used by some proprietary system to switch to
a different phase for further validation)
Critics of phases bleat that one can do the same thing with
different schemas, but the point is that with Schematron
<phase>s they become first-class objects capable of being
manipulated rather than proprietory handwaving :-)
In Topologi's freebie Schematron Validator (and in our
forthcoming Collaborative Markup Editor) we just make
a popup menu for the user to select the particular phase
to run when validating. Very straight-forward to use.
All in all, I think phases are a useful mechanism which
are trivial to implement and write, so they fit into
Schematron's `low-hanging fruit' approach well.
Cheers
Rick Jelliffe
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