Piroumian Konstantin wrote: >Hi! > >I have alsmost 2 years' experience in the XML (Cocoon) vs. JSP (Struts) >fight in our company, wrote several documents related to >Cocoon/Struts/Self-implemented framework comparison and I'd like to tell >that all the arguments for Cocoon break on the following: > > - Cocoon has portability problems while JSP is supported natively by >many/several App Servers and some of them have Struts already integrated > - XSP is not standart while JSP has a specification, compatibility >tests, etc. > - JSP is much more popular than XSP and there is a lot of general >purpose JSP taglibs available >
Do you think pushing the JSP integration would help Cocoon to have a better acceptance by looking "more standard" ? > - Cocoon changes to quick - we had a lot of problems with C1->C2 and >that experience frightened our architects > Good point here. But can't we make the assumption that the C2 architecture is solid and will last a long time ? > - Cocoon's codebase is much more complicated than Struts' and >depends/uses a lot of 3rd party stuff > Right, but this 3rd party stuff (in lib/optional) is for features that Struts doesn't provide. > - Cocoon requires knowledge of many different technologies/things >(Java/Servlets, XML, XSLT, XSP, Sitemap, JavaScript - for flow, and some >others, optionally) while Struts is much simpler in usage and requires >knowledge only of JSP/Servlets and has a relatively simple configuration >file in XML. > - and at last, not every application needs multimedia output that is >one of the coolest features of Cocoon > > What about separation of concerns even for a non-multimedia application ? Isn't this a cool feature also ? >The above is not my personal opinion, but was gathered in a lot of >discussions with my collegues and our experience either with Cocoon or >Struts. > That's good you have an experience with both. >My personal opinion is that if Cocoon had no compatibility problems (usually >those are JAXP and classloader problems and rarely problems come from >Cocoon's request/response abstractions) then it would be much better for any >middle/high level of complexity web applications than Struts. > >Regards, > Konstantin > >P.S. I'll send a more detailed answer to the list if time allows and will >answer all the listed questions. > Cool ! Thanks, Sylvain -- Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies Apache Cocoon http://www.anyware-tech.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
