Are you ever create a contentn management system using XML???

You will see how great XSP is it? and how powerfull is a XML system.

Frans Thamura




-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 2:41 AM
Subject: JSP v. XSP (was Re: performance inquiry)


>I am not interested in time right now, atleast not ms.  Why else would I
>want to use XSP?  I used XSPs for awhile, but I prefer JSP for a few
reason,
>and right now one doesn't work.  I will consider migrating, as most of my
>work is done in classes and XSLT.  The first is:
><jsp:useBean id="login" class="com.pyramid6.util.WebLogin" scope="session"
>/>
><jsp:setProperty name="login" property="*" />
>
>This makes it real easy and nice to support sessions and read the request
>parameters.
>
>The second one, which doesn't work in beta 1 is:  <jsp:directive.page
>errorPage="error.html" />
>
>This will catch exceptions real easy, and display a nice page for me.
>
>Now the only benifit I saw with XSP over JSP is with databases.  I am not
>planning on using a database, so this point was lost on me.
>
>JSP is an industry standard right now.  While I am sure XSP is gaining
>support, I am tring to stick to established standards.  I am not real
>concerned with this, as my files are only about 20 lines long, and I will
>have about five of them.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony Mills
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Berin Loritsch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 12:07 PM
>Subject: Re: performance inquiry
>
>
>> Anthony Mills wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am developing a web site using JSP and Cocoon 2.  I am running two
>tomcat
>> > web servers (3.2 and 4.0beta) on the same box at the same time.  I have
>a
>> > Pentium III 450 with 192mb ram.  I have noticed a few things.  First,
it
>> > takes a little while to start, about 20 seconds.  A page take about 5
>> > seconds to load the first time.  After that, I am more limited by my
>> > connection (128kbps up) than I am by my web pages.  The pages come back
>> > within seconds.  I have JSPs being run through Cocoon 2; I assume that
>xsp
>> > would have similar speeds.  Keep in mind this is not a scientific
>> > measurement, just what I "notice".  Also, both web server are running
>about
>> > 34mb, with little interaction so far.  One thing to consider when
>deploying
>> > your app.  You can precompiled your jsp/xsp pages.  This would speed
>things
>> > up considerably.
>>
>>
>> The first access is from the Sitemap compiling.  It and the XSP pages can
>be
>> precompiled.  Cocoon takes roughly 15-20 seconds to start up mainly
>because of
>> the number of managed resources it is controlling, and because of the
>compiled
>> sitemap.  If you make Cocoon load on startup then most of the
>initialization
>> will have been done before the first request.
>>
>> 5 seconds is about right for an XSP page.
>>
>> Keep in mind that XSP is a better match than JSP for Cocoon--there is
less
>> translation and parsing that has to happen.  By doing that you will shave
>off
>> a few milliseconds per request (10-50ms depending on size of
information).
>>
>> >
>> > Hope this helps,
>> >
>> > Anthony Mills
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "java guru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:33 AM
>> > Subject: performance inquiry
>> >
>> > > Hi.,
>> > >   I am begining of developing a
>> > > standalone/networked/web application. But need to
>> > > decide what to use. C2 attracted be 'coz of many cool
>> > > features i might use in the future..
>> > >
>> > > But performance issues scares me.... I need advice..
>> > >
>> > > The application need to run standalone or networked
>> > > like web app...Considering this..
>> > >
>> > > 1. Is it better to do with servlet and jsp: In this
>> > > case i have problem with connection pooling and o/r
>> > > mapping to database
>> > >
>> > > 2. Is it better to use xml stuff with c2: In this i
>> > > fear for performance. I fear it might demand high end
>> > > configuration user systems compared to no1..
>> > >
>> > > Please advice
>> > > thanks
>> > >
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