European Central Bank is using Cocoon for the front end of a big J2EE
application. We run Cocoon right now inside BEA Weblogic (Just to let you
know it is possible to do that).

Next step for our company is to wait and see what the operational and
maintainability benefits will be.

However the most important for our future use is to get mature releases and
improved documentation (tutorials) in order for decrease the learning
curves.

Raul

-----Original Message-----
From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 03 April 2002 18:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?



Cocoon is making into comertial world. My company uses it
for all iterfaces to our sizable product (over 1000 XSPs).
We started with 1.7.4 and moved to 1.8.1 and now I'm trying
to move to 2.0.2 (I hope performance will be better).

Where Coccon is lacking is documentation, documentation, and
documentation. I find that whenever I'm looking for something
5% of the time I find it in Cocoon docs, 40% of the time I find
it from the mailing list archives (I wish I could use deja.com
for my searches) and rest of the time is code surfing.

Also some push into comertial J2EE providers should be made.
iPlanet App Server included cacoon in one of it's version but
I think the new one (6.5) will come with Struts.

Anyways, it's a great engine I just wish I could spend less time
looking and more time developing.

Artur...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Punte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commerical world?
> 
> 
> Dear Cocoon User Group:
> 
>    First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework,
>    I'm a total believer, and expecially love
>    how Cocoon2 is turning out!
> 
>    Cocoon seems just awesomely powerfully, years
>    ahead of the classical architectures proposed
>    by Sun (i.e. JSP to ServletBeans to EJBs...).
> 
>    But how come there is NO (i.e. ABSOLUTELY NO)
>    demand for Cocoon expertise in the US market?
>    Type in key word "java" and retrieve 3500 hits
>    on www.dice.com.  Type in key word "cocoon" 
>    and get ZERO!
> 
>    Is it all just a dream?
> 
>        Steve
> 
> PS:
>    No need to reply if "your" commerical project
>    is using it: congradulation.  But the bigger
>    picture is my question.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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